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  1. Horhey

    Horhey Well-Known Member

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    Expired.
     
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    Pssst! Hey Horhey! US wars don’t promote democracy and freedom. Nobody's wars do. But don't tell the American people- or their allies like us Australians. It would upset 'em.
     
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    'US wars promote freedom and democracy'

    Even to those who neither asked for, nor want them?? 'Oh but we insist that you have freedom and democracy because we know what's best for you.' The trouble US wars cause eh?

    The wars won't happen under The Donald though. He isn't so arrogant as to believe he knows what's best for other countries.
     
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    My image up-loader does not work currently ... but you know this image of a B-52 bomber who led rain bombs with topic: "If you don't come to democracy, democracy will come to you"?

    This is one true point of history ... but another one is that the US give and gave a crap about how democratic and free a country is, if they were Anti-Communist and / or their close friend and ally! There were and still are enough examples on this planet where bloody regimes depressed their people and were held in power with US help only!
     
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    Not much can happen on the planet without the hegemon's approval. I get so sick and tired of having to be against people, places and things all the time, don't you? A week of being allowed to be for the world's people, places and things would be like a holiday: just one piddling bloody week of not being told who to hate and why!
     
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    Yeah ... and only 1 week where you have to bang your head on the wall due to stupidity of others which cause BS only!
     
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    The American people are very aware of that. Trump's core base is very antiwar.
     
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    Even with China, Iran and Islam?
     
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    Trump's core base is opposed to sending military personnel to war under current rules of engagement and military leadership. Clinton was rejected by many voters because she was correctly seen as a warmonger.
     
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    That's a relief. So why are the GOP increasing the military budget?

    Trump: 'I Would Increase' Military Spending - Breitbart
    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/03/09/trump-i-would-increase-military-spending/

    Just so his is bigger and everyone knows it?
     
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    Weakness invites aggression. But note that I said Trump's core base is antiwar. There are many Republican hawks - mostly RINOs like McCain and Graham. Flynn was apparently a hawk - and a Democrat.
     
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    We already spend more on the military than the entire world combined.
     
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    Like all government programs, much of the money is wasted. We never get what we pay for.
     
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    And the rest of the world gets more than it deserves and a peace deficit.

    " Weakness invites aggression : we must have been raised very differently.
     
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    It has nothing to do with how you are raised. It has everything to do with the long history of human warfare. That weakness invites aggression is just an unfortunate fact of life.
     
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    The money is wasted because a military can only get so powerful. We hit the limit hundred of billions of dollars ago.
     
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    Spending money does not necessarily make a military more powerful. Our military spending has not even allowed the military to maintain or replace equipment that his been degraded over the course of 2 frivolous major wars and the nearly 2 decades of extended armed conflict that have followed.

    See "Maginot Line" for an example of how the military industrial complex can use massive spending programs to weaken a military and leave a nation vulnerable.
     

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