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    What bakeries refuse to serve gay people with anything?
     
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    a better example would be the military industrial complex ;)
     
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    So presumably, you would say the same if Facebook banned a bunch of black people on the basis of race.
     
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    What the hell is the connection to the MIC?
     
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    in answer to the question:

    'private company impose its own terms of use'

    'You guys are always pushing for government control of private enterprise'


    The example of the MIC illustrates that.
     
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    I take it that the question made you too uncomfortable @yardmeat?
     
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    Oh, right. I just couldn't figure out why you quoted my unrelated post. I see now that you were referring to a post that I quoted in an earlier reply.
     
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    How would they know? I can assure you though that ISIS does not have a Facebook page
     
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    Not really. I've answered it several times already.
     
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    Specifically in relation to black people?
     
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    If Facebook said so.

    Why do you mention ISIS?
     
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    We discussed this before, no need to return to that.
     
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    some will just like some republicans still support Trump
     
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    Your ridiculous claim is as unsupported as my counter claim.
     
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    It's supported that you asked a ridiculous question how a Christian can fire a gay person. You asked that because you either want to do that, or that you're trolling. Take your pick.
     
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    Or to learn more about US law?
     
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    Fair enough. Remember to quote this time!

    So you were in one of the first sit ins - what were you doing? Supporting blacks?

    Why do you say that?

    Yes, I would agree. I thought that you were talking about groups which express certain views. The line where the FBI should infiltrate would be when the groups starts to make the sort of preparations that you mention above, or if they make threats to kill people.

    "Fundy's wiki?"

    Which means what in this context?

    Frowned upon by who?

    Well the idea would be that no solider would be open about their intention to fight as a civilian against the military while they are on duty on base, where their commander can shoot them!

    What do you mean "concentrated expression of society?"

    Doesn't the far right have just as much potential to destroy social cohesion if they had an intelligent leader who could refine their instincts into a strategy?

    Why does it comfort you?
     
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    The rightwing conspiracy nut view of private companies
    Yes.
    Just a way of saying, in another generation or two, personal sexuality, including choices that most of us consider eccentric or aberrant, are not going to be a concern for anyone. No need to destroy the life of a Christian baker. Just let social evolution take its course.

    I don't see how any reasonable person could disagree with that.

    Of course, there are marginal cases, the sort which make bad law, as they say. For instance, anti-abortion groups which say "abortion is murder", arguably, are inciting their more literal-minded members to go out and stop the murderers in the only way open to them. Which some of them do, from time to time.

    Similarly with fundamentalist Muslim groups -- once they're in the US and are citizens, they have the rights of Americans. Which means the right to preach about the infidels -- the rest of us -- and the dury of a good Muslim to defend Islam, etc. Again, their more literal-minded members may reach unpleasant conclusions from the sermons they hear every Friday.

    So should such groups be infiltrated? Hard call, but I'm in favor of erring on the side of caution. Then, of course, the police are tempted to take further step, towards 'entrapment'.

    Click on the link. It's a fundamentalist Christian version of Wikipedia. I think certain libs have a lot of fun adding just-barely-plausible crazy stuff to it, but this article is a good one. It's inspiring. An example of religion doing good things.

    "In war, the laws are silent" in the context of combatting the Klan in the South during the Sixties, meant that the FBI went beyond the legal norms sometimes.

    In the Tarrants case, there was a liberal reporter for the LA TImes, Jack Nelson, -- he died recently -- who got pretty upset about it and wrote a book exposing the operation in which Tarrants (see above) was shot and his female companion killed. Hoover hated him for this. More on him here. He got upset, but few others did.

    By the military authorities, backed up by the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

    It's the difference between being a soldier and being a policeman. A policeman can resign at any time. A soldier can't. I know about that deputy who bottled out of doing his duty in Florida, but he was probably within his legal rights, even if morally despicable.

    Not sure of your point here.

    The military necessarily reflects the society from which it's drawn, which sets its rules. But everything in the military is 'concentrated'. You can't just quit your job if you don't like your boss, the penalities for being a bad employee are more severe, the demands on you are greater, your commitment to the greater good, even at the expense of your life, is made explicit.

    You may enjoy working for Google and be loyal to it, but you probably won't crawl towards a machine-gun nest for it. If you die doing your job for Amazon, you won't be buried in a special cemetery and guarded by Amazon employees, and honored in special ceremonies.

    Absolutely. A greater potential, in fact. In an actual civil war, ghetto Blacks and radicalized college kids would be no match for an aroused white population who decided to practice identity politics of their own. A bunch of Harvard snowflakes with automatic weapons would be mainly dangerous to each other. Google 'Townhouse explosion, Weathermen'.

    Right now, you're supposed to be ashamed of being white. Just wearing a button saying "It's okay to be white" will get you condemned by all good liberals and progressives, if not assaulted. But that could change, since at the end of the day, people will defend their interests.

    The Hard Left have discovered that the real fracture lines of society are not the class lines, usually, but the ethnic/tribal lines. In the past, the whole premise of the Left was to try to suppress ethnic/tribal divisions, and unite the masses on the basis of class interest. Occasionally it worked, but it was an uphill battle. Now they've pretty much given up on that, and have embraced race war. Not a good idea.

    It comforts me that a significant section of the state apparatus -- the only section that counts, the men with guns -- is non-white, because I would not like to see the US become a fascist society. And it would be hard to have that happen, without having most of the state apparatus on your side.

    This was why Germany slid so easily into fascism -- most of the state apparatus, the Army and police, were sympathetic to the goals of the Nazis. Hitler realized, after the 'beer-hall putsch', that he should not try to take on and overthrow the state directly. He could go around it, indeed use it. Which he did. Even before his accession to power, the German judiciary treated Nazis with kid gloves, Communists just the opposite, even though it was the Nazis who were the usual instigators of violence. After he was made Chancellor, he faced almost no resistance from the German state as he destroyed German democracy.

    There are always noisy ignoramus airheads around who say that the US already is fascist, that all Republicans are fascists, etc. but they have no idea what real fascism looks like.

    And, in addition to the enormous social catastrophe that a fascist America would be, it would almost certainly ignite World War III.

    We may get that anyway, of course.
     
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    What was this in reply to?

    Abortion clinic bombings?

    Sure, but its not going to matter if the military goes to war with the civilian population.
    Remember, you referred to, "a genuine fascist mass movement, centred around racially-purifying the US and regaining national glory."

    Well how else could someone's commander shoot them if they decided to join the civilian population in a conflict?

    People CAN quit their job can't they?

    How would it become fascist just by having an all white military?
     
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    Both bombings and outright murders by gunfire.
    The duty to shoot soldiers because of pusillanimous conduct in the fact of the enemy is, or used to be, general.
    Job quitting: I was referring to the military.
    As for the non-white composition of the police and the army: if these organizations were all-white, it would be easier for them to come over, en masse, to a fascist movement or at least remain 'neutral' during a fascist coup attempt. As it is, that wouldn't be so easy, which is a good thing. If the German army had been 30% Jewish, with the officer corps 20% Jewish, with the big-city police departments having a large number of Jews in them, Hitler would have hard a harder time.

    As it is, an American fascist movement will have to try to split these institutions on racial lines, which of course will be made easier by the natural white resentment of affirmative actionf (racially-biased hiring and promotions), but it will still be a problem. Fortunatelly, the Hard Left hate Black policemen more than they do white policemen, since they are living disproof of the Hard Left's view of America as incorrigibly racist and of all Black criminals as innocent victims of white racism.
     
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    This is great news.
     
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    No one owes these nutters a platform. Let them start their own company.
     
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    So you wouldn't have a problem if all left wing people were banned, leaving only right wing people?
     

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