Facts, statistics DISPROVE the BIG LIE about police

I posted this not long ago but it's worth it's own thread as i recall all the cop haters went quiet... nothing to say. This is for 2018 but statistics have pretty much remained more or less the same over recent years.


Let's do an in depth analysis on assaults vs police, crime stats and police shootings. Let's try and put it all together.


assaults vs police 2018

https://ucr.fbi.gov/leoka/2018/topic-pages/officers-assaulted

58,866 officers were assaulted, 18k of whom sustained injuries

This is significant, that out of so many assaults on officers, 18k of them being injured, only 1,000 citizens were shot by police in 2018? This shows remarkable restraint on behalf of police officers, a complete opposite picture of 'police brutality'


crime statistics 2018

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/topic-pages/violent-crime

1.2mm violent crimes

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43

So, Blacks are only 13% of population yet committed 27% of the crime, that's twice as much. The most striking is murder, 53% committed by blacks even though they are only 13% of population. Pretty much, blacks are overrepresented in violent crime - 28% rape, 54% robbery, 29% burglary, 30% larceny... overall 37% of violent crime committed by blacks, that's 3 times more than their representation in overall population. What does this mean? expect more violent altercations with police in black communities vs white communities, proportionally.


police shootings, 2018

998 shootings (23% black of them black, 45% white, 16% hispanic). Only 4% were unarmed.

https://investigativereportingworkshop.org/investigation/police-shot-killed-nearly-1000-in-2018/

Twice as many whites shot vs blacks, where is this covered on CNN, MSNBC?

Lastly,
Unarmed black men being shot? 'HANDS UP DON'T SHOOT'? no epidemic at all. A myth. The real problem is homicides. This is the real epidemic.

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/police-black-killings-homicide-rates-race-injustice

"Much of modern policing is driven by crime data and community demands for help. The African American community tends to be policed more heavily, because that is where people are disproportionately hurt by violent street crime. In New York City in 2018, 73% of shooting victims were Black, though Black residents comprise only 24% of the city’s population."

"Nationally, African Americans between the ages of 10 and 34 die from homicide at 13 times the rate of white Americans, according to researchers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Justice Department."

"The number of unarmed Black shooting victims is down 63% from 2015, when the database began. There are about 7,300 Black homicide victims a year. The 14 unarmed victims in fatal police shootings would comprise only 0.2% of that total."

 

It is not difficult to see why you posted what you did. There are 44 million Blacks in the US. And around 16 thousand murders. Thus you are condemning 44 million people for what less than 8000 did. In your glee to condemn a whole race of people, you ignore the fact that 99.993% of Blacks have not killed anyone.

The problem isn’t just the police killing people, it is police brutality in general. The lack of accountability for that brutality. It isn’t just with Blacks. I think the more victimized demographic tends to be the mentally ill. The latest victim I have heard about was Black and schizophrenic. I have witnessed enough police bad behavior to understand that in most cases, the police are not my friend, or anyone else’s. They are there to find wrong doing whether it exists or not. In many states, the police are seen as a source of revenue for the state. If they put up toll booths going in and out of cities, they wouldn’t have to write so many tickets.

I was watching some YouTube videos of cases where, by careful cross examination, defense lawyers tear down the testimony of police officers. It is interesting, watching for the moment the officer realizes that he no longer has a case. It is always followed by a prosecutor who tries to restate the just debunked claims - which tends to make him/her seem a bit on the pathetic side. What I found rather interesting was that many officers seemed to think they had more power than they did, and tended to have less knowledge of the procedures than they claimed to have.

One of the worse problems is the war on drugs. It allows police officers to openly violate the rights of citizens. Gives them an excuse to rifle through people’s possessions, to go on a fishing expedition.


When I was a teenager, out with friends I first experienced marihuana. To this day, for the life of me, I can not understand why anyone would think that marihuana is such a horrible thing that it requires a draconian response. So much so that I think that there is something terribly wrong with those who think that marihuana should be illegal. Of course we now know the making of drugs illegal and the subsequent wars on drugs were racially based. That the purpose of criminalizing recreational drugs was to do harm to Mexicans, Blacks, and “hippies”. It is a terrible horrifying wrong that has been going on for way too long.

 

The stats are posted to show that there is no problem with policing as a system.
There's no "systemic racism".

That's what the stats show.

It's not about bashing black people or the black community. It's a response to police bashing.

The issue is poverty. A problem Democrats have been claiming they were going to "fix" for the past 50 years, but haven't even come close.

Behavior matters. Single parent households are poorer.

 

Actually, the statistics in the OP are known by most common sense folks. While most logically thinking people may not know the numbers they do know what is happening before their eyes. But the liberals need a cause, the race baiters and race pimps need a cause, the police haters need a cause, the MSM needs a cause, the weak politicians need a cause, therefore they spread propaganda in an attempt to convince us we are a racist country with a Gestapo police who assassinate blacks. Some un-thinking people buy into that misconception.

 

The question is "WHY?". Why do black people commit twice as many crimes? Do you believe that it's because there is some sort of .... gene... that controls both skin color and criminal behavior at the same time? Or is there some deep rooted systemic issue that originates in the different historical background of both ethnic groups?

Hint: there is no such "gene", but there are historical differences between the two ethnic groups.

 

Take a look at Post #3 above. Lack of parental guidance is a big factor. I have seen it in person and the statistics support it.

 

In general -- Look how children are raised at an early age to see how the teens and adults will turn out.

 

The ANSWER is personal life choices which lead to ignorance and poverty. Ignorance and poverty lead to higher crime. This is fact. Something Democrats have been telling us they are going to fix if we will just spend another billion/trillion dollars for the past 60 years.

 

you would think most people know these facts and aware of these stats but increasingly, the race pimps, baiters and hustlers are the ones many people listen to and they are full of lies.

 

Well there is the problem

 

MSNBCNN, the voice and educational hub of the DNC and it's supporters!!

 

100% due to culture... we need to drop you in a crime infested neighborhood so you can see for yourself. You will soon realize there is no white man oppressing anyone but black parents doing a terrible job raising their kids, kids getting into wrong lifestyle from early age. This is just a fact... not an opinion.

if you are born into a household where your mother and father instill no principled values in you, show you no love, set bad examples. Your off to a rough start... then if these kids start hanging around thugs and gangsters, and get in trouble with law early on, their future suddenly looks bleak. Notice the absence of racist white man creating the environment, it’s a cycle of destructive culture.

The way you fix this is by holding black parents accountable and people accountable, for their own actions. Blaming the white ghost as the scapegoat, ain’t gonna solve anything.

 

As I posted in another thread:

There are a multitude of differences between the races. Ranging from skull size and shape, musculoskeletal structure, eye color, hair type, nose shape, brow height and width, average height, susceptibility and immunity to certain diseases... I could go on and on.

Anthropologists can pick your bones up 1000 years from now and tell you with exact precision which of the races you were.

The argument is that if we were isolated populations long enough that those physical characteristics (which are far more immutable than mental ones) evolved differently between the races then it only stands to reason that mental faculties and our brains would have done the same.

Without going into a long diatribe here, the physical characteristic differences we see between the races mostly derived from the difference in environment and lifestyle. So too did the mental differences. Caucasoids and mongoloids invented and became proficient in agriculture for thousands of years prior to the negroid populations instituting it. Whereas the caucasoids and mongoloids were building massive cities and civilizations predicated upon agriculture, the negroid populations were still living as Hunter gatherers.

Again, for brevity, what are the differences in the type of people who succeed in an agriculture society when compared to a Hunter gatherer society? Well the Hunter gatherers must continuously strive and fight for their food. They have to defend not only their food but their tribe from predators. Whereas the agricultural communities usually have fences and grow their food.

This inevitably means that those who succeed, and as a byproduct reproduce, within the Hunter gatherer society are those who are athletic, strong, fast and very aggressive. You need high physical prowess, not as high intellect and the ability to become hyper-aggressive enough on a consistent basis to be able to defend what’s yours. This is not true in an agricultural society however where we would expect more intellectual attributes to be desirable and successful and therefore to be able to breed and pass along their genetic material.

The divergence in our evolutionary paths explains the average higher intellect, lesser athleticism and lower aggression rates of the caucasoid and mongoloid populations compared to the lower intellect, superior athleticism and the higher aggression rates within the negroid populations.

 

This doesn’t even mention the fact that whites (or more correctly called caucasoids) almost universally have traces of Neanderthal in their genetic code, whereas almost no negroid populations have it.

We are different sub-species. This is not debatable this is a fact. To say we are the same is factually incorrect.

 

this poster’s (who you responded to) ability to use straw mans, non-sequitur is legendary. It’s a waste of time to even respond to him. This is a person who makes a fuss out of bad police and white suprematists when 99% of police are good and 99% of whites are not supremacists. Yet he doesn’t think we should discuss the horrific problem with black on black crime because most blacks are good people. Blacks commit more violent crime than whites do, proportionally. The fact that blacks are 13% of population yet commit over 50% of the murder is a horrific stat and the fact that the biggest dangers blacks face is other blacks, not cops, seems to be dismissed as not important.

the answer to this is ‘not important’ as most blacks don’t murder. Then let’s stop talking about police brutality and white supremacists, using same logic since most cops and whites aren’t bad or supremacists.

so this dude wants us to turn a blind eye to the biggest issues facing blacks by using an argument he fails to use when speaking of cops and white supremacists, which are much leaser issues facing blacks.

it’s cognitive dissonance and not even worth responding directly..

 

100% correct. This is an overblown Chicken Little issue that our national leaders have funded, supported, and politicized to further divide people. It's sickening, really. Absolutely sickening that such nonsense gets bandied about by people who are supposed to be mature adult "leaders". Absolutely sickening.

I always expected people elected to leadership would lead, not pander. It's sad.

 

it’s a power grab... race hustling/baiting is profitable business. Look at how these lawyers scour the earth for next black victim (ignoring many more white victims and black victims at hands of blacks), to get TV time and get hired. Look at how Al sharpton suddenly shows up at funerals of people he doesn’t care about, to get his face in front of cameras. They don’t care about these black lives at all and don’t care if black victims were violent or dangerous, facts don’t matter. Everywhere they go, they leave a trail of destruction as they (in collusion with msm) incite riots. Their actions also lead to more death in black communities as we usually see an uptick in crime after these race pimps are done with their work. Not to mention black businesses being burnt to the ground. They leave this trail of death and destruction yet, in the process, attain fame and enrich themselves. Same for BLM leaders, who incite riots, harm black communities but profit from it. We have seen how one of the blm founders has all of a sudden become a millionaire and buying homes in predominantly white neighborhoods, where white folks she bashes live. It’s absolutely disgusting..

 

You're still not answering the question: WHY is there this "lack of parental guidance" that you mention?

 

It appears to be a cultural difference.
You will have to ask them why.

 

Rap music? @#$@# a @#$@ and @#$@# a cop. It's no mystery where these concepts originate.

 

The DELIBERATE destruction of the poor black nuclear family...want those food stamps, that Section 8 housing, that benefit check, etc., etc., fine....but, uh, NO DADDYs allowed, nope, nyet, nada.

 

Well....the black illegitimacy rate skyrocketed both in raw numbers and in comparison to other races immediately after LBJ's War on Poverty incentivized single parenthood. If you are seriously looking for an answer to your question, you probably want to start there.

I suspect though that you have zero desire to actually find an answer because it does not comport with your political beliefs.

 

Lets break the arguments down:
the police are assaulted a lot, there job is dangerous I agree and we need to appreciate them for that
there is a lot of violent crime True, too much
more whites were killed than blacks True but there are more whites than blacks in this country
more people (Blacks and Whites) die from homicide than from police shootings True
there is a higher percentage of violent crime coming out of the black community than the white community true
unarmed blacks being shot is a myth Not true
inference: We should not be concerned with unarmed Blacks (or Whites for that matter) that are killed by police....Foolish, illogical, the above does not support that conclusion.

 

In this nation of 330 million people, do you know how many unarmed blacks were shot and killed by police in 2020?

 

show me any government list of all the cops doing these things... can only have statistics if we have the data

many would welcome this data being required to be reported on by police