Faith Is A Simple Test: To Find Out If You Are Teachable?

My faith has been confirmed by the abundance oif new evidence being presented every day... look up ABR they are archeologist who use the Bible has the starting point in there search for lost sites...and it has been spot on. here's a start..

 

That is evidence that you have selected because it supports your perspective. What if you were presented with evidence that did not confirm your belief? Would you spend as much time digesting that info as you have spent watching videos like the one in your post?

 

The converse is sometimes true and mostly false in logic and reasoning. That's what you did. What I would like to know is are you talking about scientific evidence like empirical evidence? What I do know that has taken place is that somewhere along the line, science has become a religion of opinion based on social and political hot points that are going on. Climate Change is one of them. There is on denying that the climate changes every second of every day. The question though is man the root cause and can man make a difference based on Marxist ldealisms? There is no proof that man causes climate change. Yet, anyone that denies the pseudo science of it is evil. Same with mask wearing to protect others from the Covid19 virus. No scientific proof masks work but if you don't wear one you are evil! You must have faith even though the science doesn't prove masks work or man causes climate change. Fearmongers! The same cry that atheists say about religious persons.

 

i didn't need it, just enjoyeed it.. now you are commenting on something you have not vetted?

 

Wait a minute! He answered your question. You gave a blanket question with no specifics. He answered with specifics. The fact is, with respect to David, the information is well known amongst Archeologists. But, go ahead and pick another point. The answer is yes. We would look at the information and respond. But, we would respond from the standpoint that the Bible is true. There is nothing wrong with this. Anymore than there is nothing wrong with starting from a different starting point.

 

I didn’t even ask a question.

I made a point: “My point is that if disregarding evidence is part of being faithful it could cause a person to be unteachable.”

 

Flip the coin around. Suppose you were trying to teach someone that King David was real but they refused to watch your video because they had so much faith in atheism that they didn’t feel they needed to watch your video. They prefer their own belief. Would you consider that person teachable?

 

Anyway, I’m not saying a healthy amount of faithfulness isn’t an essential part of being human but it’s something we need to be careful about, especially considering the extremes that many people can go to based on religious faith.

 

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OK, your reading comprehension is slipping. The fairy tale says that the God character got nervous because Adam & Eve had become like God and knew good from evil. Genesis 3:22. It does not say that Adam & Eve knew how to make a chocolate cake or how to build an ark. It does say that man could live forever if he kept eating from those trees, like the tree of life.

So, did Adam & Eve eat from the right tree or should they have eaten from the tree of life first and then gorged on the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

 

King David was a despicable person. Satan had better morals than David.

 

To answer your question: I am far from being perfect..
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Thank you very much for taking the time to answer my questions ~ I appreciate that.

God Bless.

JAG


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You are assuming people of faith disregard any evidence. that is also someone who is unteachable because of a non-qualified assumption. It's ironic that atheists question creation scientists for not using their own scientific findings and data. Yet, here you go condemning on the grounds they use evolutionist science findings and data. The hypocrisy is astounding, wouldn't you agree? To clarify something, creation scientists do their own work and publish it as well in scientific periodicals where evolutionary scientists do. So, how come evolutionary scientists don't publish in creation science publications and reject creation science conclusions based on the fact their conclusions are supporting biblical information? It's like back in K-12 school where the cool kids reject the geeks and won't let the geeks in their clubs. People in here that are evolutionists refuse to read anything published by creation scientists and behave badly towards people of Christian faith. Sad...

 

Watch those goal posts move!!! It's your comprehension that has lacked all along. But, that's what happens without the light of Christ and the Holy Ghost helping with understanding. The scripture actually says man has become like one of us knowing good and evil. Actually, it means knowing the "difference" between good and evil. And, I'm the one that pointed out the making things or building things, not you. So, you plagiarized me. Then, you move the goal post to which tree should Adam and Eve have partaken of. It's an interesting question. Had they continued to not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, they would also not have been able to keep the other commandment to multiply and replenish the Earth. Which, by the way, in my opinion, is the good, not the evil. Sexual intercourse between a man and a woman who are married is good, not evil. God married them before they left the Garden of Eden and they remained heterosexual all their lives. So, Eve understood this through her woman's intuition and partook of the fruit so that they could keep the most important commandment to multiply and replenish the Earth. This was important because we were waiting as spirit children of our Heavenly Parents and the Plan of Salvation required us to come down and receive a physical body so that we could eventually be like our Heavenly Parents.

 

You are welcome

 

I feel like you are responding to things someone else said. I haven’t condemned anyone or made any references to evolutionist science findings and data.

All I have really said is that “if disregarding evidence is part of being faithful it could cause a person to be unteachable.”

If I were to criticize my own argument I would probably start with the way I interpreted Hebrews 11:1. It’s faith in something hoped for even if there is no evidence that the thing hoped for is real.

That can be a good quality. What if a person hoped that they would be successful as an artist even though there was no evidence that they would make a good artist? They might be a terrible artist at first but develop skills over time and become the next DaVinci. The ability to overlook how bad they were during the initial phases of development was essential.

That’s why I said “‘could’ cause a person to be unteachable. In some situations it might. Like if a person were fixated on the idea that the earth were flat and they refused to acknowledge any evidence that indicated it is an oblate spheroid. Their faith in the idea that the earth is flat might cause them to only consider evidence that the earth is flat.

 

Don't know where you got the definition of faith from Hebrews 11:1. Let's see if you can be teachable so here is the quote from the KJV: Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not SEEN. The chapter also gives examples of acts of faith by prophets in the Old Testament such as; Abraham, Sarah, Noah, Enoch...te Perhaps you might learn from their testimonies. You substituted the word "real" for "seen" and changed the meaning. Also, the chapter explains that those who believe and have faith, through their faith, the truth will be manifested onto them and will become seen.
I do agree with your example of a flat earth. In my work as a missionary member, I find people all the time that refuse to believe things in the Bible that I point out. Like, Baptisms for the Dead (1Cor. 15:29) Or, the mansions are mansions of glory as exhibited in Corinthians Chapter 15, Celestial, Terrestrial..... There is a member in our forum that I showed where there would be two testaments joined together in the last days, Stick of Judah and the Stick of Joseph through Ephraim. The Lord even said "write" on the stick meaning right all that is given through prophecy and revelation. Stick meaning "book." With Isaiah Chapter 29, I see this as The Book of Mormon. He hasn't responded. Which is typical when some unteachable persons find out I'm right or could be right.

 

yeah, good is against people learning, he wants em dumb as a rock, thus kicking them out of the garden for eating from the tree of knowledge

 

I still don’t think that invalidates my point.

There is a link in the original post that takes you to multiple translations of Hebrews 11:1. I was giving a quick paraphrase.

My point still stands and I think you have agreed with it twice now. If a person has faith in something when the evidence of it is unseen then they could become unteachable. It could also be beneficial.

It’s not that controversial really.

 

Hey look, I went from thinking my point was just arguable to now thinking it’s not controversial.
This discussion has caused me to become more entrenched in my viewpoint. lol

 

I find that interesting. Let you know when I get there.

 

"Let you know when I get there"__Yabberefugee

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JAG

 

My thoughts. Why do you have to troll the same posts all over the Internet to multiple sites?

 

Promise

 

We’ll all be laughing about this one day.

 

There is so much personal interpretation there. Very little of that is in the bible.