Why? Sure but does that mean anything inside your body you consider your property? Again, if so, why? So you think 'personhood' begins with physical detachment? Why? I see. How so? Are you saying that only a fetus cannot be considered a human being with rights?
because nobody can interfere with your body without your permission,. I've told you why. Personhood begins with the cutting of the cord after birth - or if the cord isn't cut ,when the placenta separates from the mother and the baby can be moved about freely by itself. Well, it's not difficult. Animals can't either.
No, it doesn't. If a baby dies during labour, its death is recorded as a stillbirth. The third stage of labour is the delivery of the placenta. edit: The placenta doesn't have to be delivered for the foetus to become a person as long as the umbilical cord has been cut. Some people prefer to let the placenta rot away still attached to the baby for reasons known only to themselves.
Any other cell is just as much of a "being" as the zygote and none of these are "human beings". The term "human being" is a combination of "a human" and "being"/that exists. A zygote is not "a human". The zygote is not a Homo sapien lacking the traits necessary to gain membership into that club. Biology is the "domain science", not medicine, and doctors take very little biology that relates. So many citations from anti-abort doctors never give "the why". Here are the comments of a "Biologist" Note that this expert gives "the why", something you never see from the anti-aborts. http://en.allexperts.com/q/Biology-664/Classification-Homo-Sapien-cells.htm Here is a peer reviewed Journal article that gives a detailed explanation issues related the first after conception. "without the inflammatory language" http://www.jci.org/articles/view/23549/files/pdf Note the argument that a zygote is "a human" is not considered ... Because there is no valid argument.
Obviously ! How could I not see the brilliance of your refutation of the experts I cited in the above post.
Fair enough argument. I'll concede that point, however it should be noted on some points, such as "personhood" in the word "being" I did not make the argument you attributed to my point.
In terms of responsibility, I totally agree that men should be held equally accountable, but not equal with regards to the choice of the fetus' existence, since it lives in the woman's body.
The debate is full of language that can have dual meanings so I apologise if I mischaracterized your usage. "Human being" can mean "a human" or it can mean something that is both human and in existence/alive like a human cell. Thanks for conceding the point. A rare person indeed has that capability.
MegadethFan said, And many people here debating abortion .say that it is not a human being. They would be wrong however like you pointed out here. A life is formed when egg meets sperm and is fertilized . conception happens. This is a scientific fact. Untouchable? I am pro-life but if someones life is being threatened and they have to protect themselves or family or some other innocent human being..then I believe if violence happens it is a necessary evil. I know that while not all police are there for the right reasons the majority are there to maintain law and order to protect the innocent and to catch the guilty. Can you imagine life without people who try to protect us, in this case our military and our police? So a human life should have to account for something to itself and society. The fetus did not get there on its own. It was the result of a sex act by two people who both contributed to its life. Our laws give the mother sole custody because it is her body even though the child she carries if half the fathers. Her body gives her the right to kill that which she created. She created a living human being. Our laws recognize this. It would make sense then that the new human she created would have protection. But our government stripped it of all rights and so the mother can kill. How can this life be anything but innocent? And by innocent I mean that it is was invited into the world by its mother because of her actions and it is growing in a safe place so it thinks in her womb. She created the avenue for this new life to start. We are outraged in society when people are cruel to animals and abuse them .why can't they see that abortion is abuse in the same way. Abuse against something human, tiny who has the right to the same things we want to enjoy..life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. They are innocent of everything they are accused of doing especially taking up space in a place that was created especially for them. It is wrong to kill a living human being even when it is in the womb. Neither does a mentally handicapped person but is their life any less meaningful than ours just because we have more mental capacity than they do? Do you think you have more of a right to live and experience happiness than they do? I am not even sure we as born older human beings value our existence. Some people do not respect life not even their own. The drug addict, the alcoholic .the dare devil who plays with life not he edge. I hear there is this guy who will attempt to walk across Niagra Falls on a rope. Is he really valuing his life? How about the race car drivers who drive at high speeds. While I feel terrible for their families when they crash they asked for it didn't they? How fast can man travel safely at those speeds? They leave families with no father .an emptiness for what? For the thrill? how is that valuing their lives or the ones they love? I am not so sure.
