Far right vs. Far left: who is more dangerous?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Le Chef, Jan 27, 2023.

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Far right or far left, who's more dangerous?

  1. The far left

    18 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. The far right

    18 vote(s)
    50.0%
  3. The fence sitters

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. JohnHamilton

    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

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    Since these folks have perfect party discipline, they will have to get instructions from headquarters for them to acknowledge that ANTIFA exists.
     
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    Dumb thread?
    I merely asked why your poll suggested fence sitters would be considered more dangerous.

    If you think your thread is dumb, why did you post it?
     
  3. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    You really should spoonfeed the OP, someone just called the OP dumb.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    LOL, you put people on ignore because they ask you for proof of some claim you make?
    Why not put the entire forum on ignore then.

    If you don't have any proof of a claim, then don't make said claim. Simple really.

    Debating people who won't back up their claims is futile because their perceptions are determined by their ideology and false. Because they can't provide proof.
     
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  5. Bowerbird

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    Oooh! Ooooh! Ooooh! Don’t tell me - Faux “news”

    just Google “Fox news fake Antifa” and be prepared for multi screens worth of reports

    Shrugs - I don’t mind being on ignore

    I ignore “ignore” personally but if you find me too annoying please feel free to use it - I do - see my sig
     
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    You deserve to be ignored.
    Afterall, you wanted proof to a claim made.
     
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    Lols! How dare I insist that people do their own homework!
     
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    Ah yes, the store windows were broken by the Easter Bunny. The car fire was caused by spontaneous combustion, and an evil spirit threw the fireworks. The shooting of the police officer was actually from a celebratory bullet fired in the air at random.

    What is it with the Democrat Party and ANTIFA? Why do Democrats defend it by ignoring its actions or even its existence? Do the Democrat Party leaders think that these black clad thugs are romantic revolutionaries? What makes their violent behavior so attractive? Previous Democrats did not support ANTIFA’s ancestors, the Weathermen faction of the SDS. Those radicals were more dangerous because they planted bombs and robbed banks and armored cars. Still ANTIFA and the Weathermen have a lot on common.

    So, can you tell us why you think ANTIFA is so attractive? Will you continue to deny that it exists?
     
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    Let’s do some comparisons here
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    https://www.csis.org/analysis/pushed-extremes-domestic-terrorism-amid-polarization-and-protest
     
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    Fake news that pushes the phony Democrat narrative that the greatest danger comes from violent, right wing, White males.

    You still failed to address my question about ANTIFA, but I didn’t expect you to provide one. You need to get permission from the Democrats to differ with the office party positions.
     
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    Far Right violence exists. Far Left violence exists. Which one is the most dangerous? People will choose the opposition.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
     
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    Why are these considered "far" right?
     
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    Because of three things.

    1 - Identity politics. People need to pigeon hole others into groups.

    2 - Terminology. All things political, many don't understand such things as Political spectrum (they only envisage Left and Right), Socialism, Fascism etc..

    3 - Agenda. Some/many are agenda ridden. They need to take something bad and pigeon hole the opposition into the same group.

    Certainly point 3, how many fight over the Nazis! The Right call them National Socialists, the Left claim they were Right Wing. On 27 January 1934, Hitler said Nazism took both elements of Left and Right wing politics, so they were syncretic. But because of the 3 points above, some/many regurgitate political crap.
     
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    I take your point and endorse it. I don't think far rightism is a bad thing in principle, but to have a discussion about tendencies, we have to agree on terminology.
     
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    By far most left wing protests were peaceful. It's a right wing lie to think it's all violent. The lie is told by using the same images. One store burning gets sold as the entire city is burning down. In the same way the right wingers down play their coup attempt as just visiting the Capitol.
     
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    The far right politicians often enough insert the dirty lies that the election was stolen. This has lead to a full fledged coup attempt by them. And not just 1/6. They walked in armed and all that to intimidate politicians in state capitols too. None of that is done by left with politicians.

    And because of that, the far right wingers are far more dangerous.
     
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    You guys have the summer of 2020. That did considerable damage to your “non violent” claims. You friends at CNN and other far left news sources didn’t help when there were burning buildings in the background while the brain dead reporter called the demonstration “non violent.”

    Of course, if you define property damage and destruction as “non violent,” which is latest left wing excuse, by your definition, it’s “non violent.”
     
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    Do you know how many Geo Floyd protests there were in 2020. Here's a chart of how many and where in just 1 month after the killing of a black man by a cop.you

    Do you think only left was involved? That would be 1 huge assumption to make.

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    https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/g...protests-wake-george-floyds-death/5310149002/

    ...
    Last October the Major City Chiefs Association (MCCA) issued “Report on the 2020 Protests & Civil Unrest.” This report looked at unrest in the 68 largest municipal and county jurisdictions in the United States and Canada from May 25, 2020 to July 31, 2020. MCCA members say they experienced 8,700 total protest
    ...
    Looting and arson were common during the period studied. The 68 cities and counties reported that they experienced 2,385 incidents of looting and 624 incidents of arson, including 97 police vehicles burned.
    https://www.policemag.com/605138/after-action-reports-on-the-riots-of-2020
     
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    As I previous wrote... that destruction was totally over exaggerated. Almost all of those protests were totally peaceful. Maybe you should look that up.

    While all comparisons between attacking democracy itself with burning down some store, is of course absolutely nuts. Attacking democracy itself is just on a whole different level of violence.
     
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    Do you seriously believe that the January rioters were trying to eliminate "democracy"? What system, what form of government, did they supposedly plan to replace it with? Don't say "Trump", because he is not an alternative system of government. If you mean "fascism," which of the rioters actually claimed this? And what did they mean?

    Suppose you had proof and honestly believed that Trump stole the election in 2024, by suppressing the vote, intimidating precinct chairs, and stuffing ballot boxes? What would you do? What would you ask others to do?
     
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    The head of the Proud Boys are accused of doing exactly that, and are standing trial over it.
    While some have admitted to obstructing a congressional proceedings.
     
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    Yea, an African-American security guard killed by the “peaceful protesters,” trying to burn down the Federal Court House in Portland, Oregon night after night, and the wonderful community of “Chop” In Seattle, Washington. I think a person died there too, but it was a “summer of love” like Woodstock.

    Peddle your BS somewhere else.
     

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