Fascism 101

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    FDR, the epitome of the left in the US.
     
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    Mussolini was refering to the Imperialist Character the capitilist Character of liberalism .

    they did have things in common ,most unied on the Question of suppressing and attacking and Liquidating Communism.
     
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    Mussolini was referring to the fact that FDR was a fascist just like himself.
     
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    FDR accepted some moderate leftist proposals, but he was not himself a leftist.
     
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    I skim through some of these more interesting topic titles, and every once in a while I come across something like your response here that is so incredibly stupid that I just have to comment.

    There isn't a former or present politician that was more of a leftist socialist then FDR. Ever hear of the New Deal? Get a clue! :roll:
     
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    You don't even know what "leftist" means.

    Lincoln, Eisenhower, possibly Teddy Roosevelt... FDR himself did listen to some socialists when crafting some of his policies, but he himself did not hold to that viewpoint.

    Note; no American president has been a leftist. We've never had one. The closest we ever got was Lincoln.

    Yeah, the New Deal was scratching the surface. Like I said, he did listen to the advice of some of his socialist staff and advisers. However, his embrace of leftist economic policies was tepid at best. Even the so-called socialist programs in the new deal were only the mild forms. It was really just pure Keynesian economics and a fairly sensible state capitalist intervention. After all, FDR wanted to make sure the United States didn't have an actual socialist revolution, which was a real possibility at times during the great depression.
     
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    Quite right. It's all about control. The progressive left has been crafting a steady path to a combination of Marxism and fascism, encompassing all the control government can manage over it's people.
    The EPA has been a great arm in that control.

    This forward movement in leftism is the manifestation pure evil. Yes, evil.
    Forget about religious connotations - there is good on this Earth, so there is the opposite; evil. That is what the so called "progressive" left is; intentional or not, it will be the result.
     
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    Dude, you're so full of (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
  9. Rollo1066

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    A fascist state is one like Italy 1922-45 where a right wing authoritarian government rules by means of a corporate state. Such a state is almost always against labor unions.

    Usually they have an agressive foreign policy. Some fascist states didn't have an agressive foreign policy (like Franco's Spain) because they were too weak to have any prospect of sucess at that.

    Some would consider a state like Argentina under Peron fascist but I don't think it quite qualified. A military government without a corporate state structure also dosen't in my opinion qualify as fascist.
     
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    from the Cambridge University Press

    Fascism: a political system based on a very powerful leader, state control and being extremely proud of country and race, and in which political opposition is not allowed

    Let's see...

    a political system based on a very powerful leader [​IMG]
    state control [​IMG]
    extremely proud of country and race [​IMG]
    political opposition is not allowed - "let's see... Dr. Ron Paul? says here you don't toe the Republicrat line... sorry, you can't speak" - 1/2[​IMG]

    Yep, America is nearly a textbook fascist nation.

    Bottom line is it's not really specific on ideology. The German and Italian fascists were basically right wing, but Soviet and Maoist systems were essentially just "left-wing fascist"... really right and left tend to merely indicate whether you identify more with traditional religion or atheism. They have little to do with how the government or economy is run.
     
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    Not so fast skippy:

    Right Wingers don't believe in Marriage Equality, and would like to create a national constitutional amendment to have it be illegal. I'd hardly call that keeping government out of our lives.

    Or that Right Wingers would rather take choice out of abortion... nah, that's something we can't let each person make up their own minds over.

    Or Censorship, lets not forget why you can see all the raunchy stuff on Cable late at night, but lets fine the crap out of someone who shows a nipple on national TV. Or how about banning pornography? So what if you don't like it, what harm is there in letting those who do enjoy it to have access to it?

    No, Right Wingers are just as much about governmental interference as Left Wingers, they just clothe it in different terms.
     

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