'Fascist' Russia bill could bar up to 200,000 Alexei Navalny supporters from running for parliament

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you have no proof.

    gotcha.

    :p
     
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    Mr Navalny is interesting fo no one except western MSM, NATO and CIA.
    So I'm don't wanna bother me and looking for a proof
    First please try to explain who could be his possible voters.
    Almost all of them are teens, not more as 1 % in the entirely Russia.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    of course not.

    proof, would mean you are correct.
     
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    Almost sounds like the right wing states taking restrictive voting laws trying to shut down voter access are taking a page right out of Dirty Donald's butt buddy Putin's playbook.
     
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    Russia is a bad place with a bad leader, thankfully they have no power other than their nuclear arsenal.
     
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    For heaven's sake, we're not a democracy. Princeton University came out with a study over 10 years ago and found out we're an oligarchy. I gather you didn't read it.
     
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    Guess again!
     
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    I suspect Navalny is Putin's controlled opposition.

    No, I have no proof.

    But it's a smart thing to do and Putin is smart.

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    It's payback time!
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  10. Durandal

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    Yeah, that and their power to influence people through online propaganda.
     
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    actually the LibDems of Zhirinovsky are much more than the navalniki... the protests in Khabarovsk last year were them...

    many things do not make sense with Navalny. When he started writing about local corruption on LiveJournal many years ago, it was good and interesting, but some navalniki who are in good faith don't realize that there are different levels of corruption too here and there in western Europe.
    The topic "Putin theaf!" based on the idea that a gas-oil rich country like Russia should have better average level of life has been pushed more recently and works somewhat on the same category of nice but naïve useful idiots, who are not aware that excepted Norway, oil and gas money doesn't go back to the people, but to oligarchy...

    it's very ironic that for years the "opponent nr. 1" to "the Kremlin" was Khodorkovsky. The guy who lost much in the bank crash of 1998 and in order to make money back, sold half the shares of Yukos to Jacob Rotschild and co-founded with ... Kissinger an "Open Russia" foundation. The deal Khodorvosky-Rotschild included that the headquarter of Yukos was to move to London. It's like if the headquarters of Texaco were to move to Moskow...
    So, that' s when the Ivanov, Putin, Lavrov, etc, entered the scene and stopped Khodorkovsky.
    Since then the anglo-american oligarchy has vowed war to death to Russia.

    First Khodorkovsky, who lives now in Switzerland, UK and the british financial heaven Gibraltar, with many millions in the pocket, was engineered as the poor freedom fighter against the evil Putin... hahaha... well..

    this didn't work, and then at some point the Navalny entered the scene. Maybe he was genuine in the very beginning but at some point he made no sense, ie. his arguments aren't Russia specific, and mostly, he has lost all credibility with his tribune of March 2014 about Crimea and his collaboration with american senate, to give names of russian personalities for financial sanctions. From this point on, he is clearly at the best manipulated, at the worst, working with the euromericans. I also suspect he may be a victim of his wife.

    Navalniki don't realize that the "West" is just interested in control of the russian resources, and the money would not go to the people, and not to Putin and friends, but to foreign financial groups and oligarcs. So they would be f****d, and since foreign finance doesn't give a toss about national investments, life in Russia would degrade, while in fact it has improved since Eltsin years. In fact most navalniki were too young to really experience the 90's, hence their gullibility.

    Russia should expel the whole Navalny clan, send them to Merkel.-
     
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    And here we go with more Putinist disinformation. I'm sure you mean well and are yourself deceived rather than being some kind of disinformation agent, but either way you're talking crap, imagining that the US is out to steal Russian resources and all that nonsense.

    The only thief you need to worry about is the one in the Kremlin. He kills and manipulates people to keep himself in power for fear of what will happen to him otherwise, and he uses the US and Europe as boogeymen to create an external enemy to distract you from domestic affairs and keep you fearful and obedient. The trained, experienced KGB man obviously has no trouble destroying his political opponents through disinformation and other means. Putin is as close as a human being can get to embodying the concept of Satan, he is such an amoral and effective manipulator of men.
     
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    And you know this how? Because Russian state media told you so?
     
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    What do they have other than nukes? Next to no soft power, economic power only in Europe due to Gazprom, only have access to the ocean through Crimea.
     
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    Thankfully that doesn't mean ****.
     
  17. Durandal

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    People who have fallen prey to it would think and say that.
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's exactly what a witch would say.
     
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    It's good when a person immediately shows his level of intelligence. You can no longer read what he writes and not waste time on it. Open the map, find Russia (it's just the largest country on the map) and see which oceans it has access to and where Crimea is located.
     
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    The best way to know what our country is doing is by what it accuses Russia of doing. It's the Saul Alinsky ploy of accusing others of what you do so as to confuse people.

     
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    they sound a lot like Republican in America, passing laws to help them win vs working for the people
     
  22. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The best way to know what Russia is up to is by what it accuses our country of doing. It's the Vladimir Putin ploy of accusing others of what you do so as to confuse people.
     
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    As I said; 'Guess again!'

    The following is from Paul Craig Roberts, one of the most brilliant men in the country. He was an economic advisor to President Reagan and helped pull us out of a recession and threw the US and the world into a prosperity that lasted for decades. He's been demonized over his realistic stance on foreign policy, and for revealing the self serving interests behind our current policy and inhumane actions.

    Like other intellectuals, who can see the imminent danger of Washington's hegemonic policies towards Russia, Craig's voice can only is heard through his blog and on foreign sites like Sputnik. Never on the MSM.

    "NATO will never match Russian military strength. NATO mainly serves as European approval of US foreign policy," Roberts said. "It has a propagandistic function."

    Roberts pointed out that it is important to understand that the United States’ hegemonic policy "leaves no basis for agreement."

    "What Washington demands is the surrender of Russian sovereignty. Russian President Vladimir Putin’s responsible, low-key, non-confrontational responses to Washington’s threats and insults will not benefit him or Russia," Roberts said.

    "The vicious facts are these: Putin and Russia are seen by Washington as obstacles to US hegemony, and the powerful and pervasive US military/security complex requires Russia as an enemy to justify its budget and power. This leaves no possibility for better relations."

    Roberts noted that former President Donald Trump regarded NATO as "a Cold War relic that had outlived its purpose."

    "To European politicians, this implied a loss of American money and sinecures," he said. "They are pleased that Biden will continue paying them."

    https://sputniknews.com/analysis/20...ussias-military-strength-ex-us-official-says/

    Russia warned that from now on its responses to Western attacks will exceed their attacks - as the EU has found out with the sanctions now imposed on it by Moscow. Maybe this will force them and us to cease our attacks and insults, and to leave Russia alone before it's too late.

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    Durandal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Paul is a raving kook and a stooge for Russian propagandists, so of course Russian propaganda outlets like Sputnik love to quote him. He's one of their useful idiots. The guy is always wrong. Case in point:

    The Next War on Washington’s Agenda
    January 11, 2012 | Categories: Articles & Columns | Tags: Us Next War Involvement, | [​IMG] Print This Article

    Only the blind do not see that the US government is preparing to attack Iran. According to Professor Michel Chossudovsky, “Active war preparations directed against Iran (with the involvement of Israel and NATO) were initiated in May 2003.” http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28542

    Washington has deployed missiles directed at Iran in its oil emirate puppet states, Oman and the UAE, and little doubt in the other US puppet states in the Middle East. Washington has beefed up Saudi Arabia’s jet fighter force. Most recently, Washington has deployed 9,000 US troops to Israel to participate in “war games” designed to test the US/Israeli air defense system. As Iran represents no threat unless attacked, Washington’s war preparations signal Washington’s intention to attack Iran.

    Another signal that Washington has a new war on its agenda is the raised level of Washington’s rhetoric and demonization of Iran. Judging by polls Washington’s propaganda that Iran is threatening the US by developing a nuclear weapon has met with success. Half of the American public support a military attack on Iran in order to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear capability. Those of us who are trying to awaken our fellow citizens start from a deficit that the minds of half of the US population are under Big Brother’s control.

    ... https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/01/11/the-next-war-on-washingtons-agenda/

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    Washington Moves The World Closer To War
    January 16, 2012 | Categories: Articles & Columns | Tags: tha world towar, | [​IMG] Print This Article

    Since my January 11 column http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/01/11/the-next-war-on-washingtons-agenda/ and the news alert posted on January 14 http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/01/14/news-alert/, more confirmation that Washington is moving the world toward a dangerous war has appeared. The Obama regime is using its Ministry of Propaganda, a.k.a., the American media, to spread the story that President Obama, Pentagon chief Panetta, and other high US officials are delivering strong warnings to Israel not to attack Iran.

    ...

    Only Russia and China can prevent the war.

    Russia took the first step when the newly appointed Deputy Prime Minister for military affairs, Demitry Rogozin told a press conference in Brussels that Russia would regard an attack on Iran as “a direct threat to our security.”

    Washington is counting on subverting Russia’s opposition to Washington’s next war. Washington can time the attack on Iran right after the March elections in Russia. When Putin wins again, the treasonous Russian opposition parties, financed by the CIA, will unleash protests in the streets. The subservient and utterly corrupt Western media will denounce Putin for stealing the election. The orchestrated protests in Russia will turn violent and discredit, if not prevent, any Russian response to the naked aggression against Iran.

    ... https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/01/16/washington-moves-the-world-closer-to-war/
     
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    Wow... hopefully this is the last EXIT SIGN of this evil demented end of the age... laws against defending Hero Hitler who protected and promoted Aryan European Christendom... and laws against insulting evil antichrist Villain Stalin who destroyed churches and mass-murdered millions of Aryan European Christians!!


    Putin never-ceases to make himself look nuttier than a fruitcake.

    Latest word is... Putin is getting ready to decree another law against insulting evil antichrist church-destroying mass-murdering STALIN !! This comes on the heels of Putin's similar 2014 law [that imposes ridiculous heavy fines and up to five years in jail time] against insulting evil antichrist Stalin and his evil brutal red army, .


    Russian Lawmakers Seek to Ban Soviet-Nazi Comparisons

    May 6, 2021

    " Russian lawmakers have proposed banning comparisons between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany as the Kremlin seeks to revive interest in the memory of World War II and praise for Russia’s Soviet past.

    The bill submitted in the lower-house State Duma on Wednesday follows President Vladimir Putin’s orders earlier this year to legally prohibit publicly equating the two former powers’ roles in the war.

    The proposed bill would also ban denying the Soviet people's “decisive role” in the defeat of Nazi Germany as well as “the humanitarian mission of the U.S.S.R. in the liberation of European countries.”

    more at link

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021...rs-seek-to-ban-soviet-nazi-comparisons-a73826

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