FBI Reports Chicago Gangs Have Formed Pact to Shoot Cops ‘On Sight’

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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-reports-chicago-gangs-formed-181326876.html

    The end of the state becomes evident at a time when the right to violence is no longer exclusively the prerogative of the state. The next stage is an open armed confrontation between the police and the citizens of the country.
    At the heart of chaos, global chaos, is the collapse of the capitalist economy.
    Therefore, the chaos will only grow.
    US presidential elections are coming soon. It is already obvious that whoever wins, opponents will not recognize victory. - The country will be split. - Chaos will intensify.
    And after a while, gangs will control entire areas.....So ... Mad Max is waiting for you.
     
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    Unfortunately gang members are citizens, otherwise they could be rounded up en masse like the terrorists they truly are and shipped off to places like Gitmo for indefinite "vacations".
     
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    These people are terrorist. Enemies of the state. They should be considered as such and dealt with accordingly. This would all come to a grinding halt if these Democrat Mayors allowed the Police to do their jobs. All this crying about poor minorities has run its course.
     
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    We've seen worse, and dealt with it (without going nuts).
     
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    FBI Reports Chicago Gangs Have Formed Pact to Shoot Cops ‘On Sight’
    Sorry Destroyer, this isn't Russia. Although I will say that in Russia these gangs would be killed on sight. That is a plus. But here we do things differently.
     
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    Well that just goes to show that death by police is a real problem. Even the crime lords are stepping up to protect the people from violent cops.
     
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    whether this report be true or false its worth noting that one of the first street gangs in america, Crips, was formed to protect the public from state terrorism. unfortunately what we are now witnessing is a resurgence of that state terrorism so it would be no surprise to hear that Shot callers are going back to their roots, some would even say this could be a blessing in that the gangs may come together and stop shooting eachother, something im sure the black community would welcome albeit to the detriment of the white ruling class who has been trying to promulgate gang civil wars since forever.
     
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    You mean when they aren't shooting little children in chicago with stray bullets? Aww, how sweet and valiant of them.
     
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    They (multiple gangs emphasis on the 's') came together, in an unholy alliance, to overcome their violent feud to stop police violence.

    That certainly says something, what that something is I do not know...
     
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    So you think its honorable? Open season on cops? most of them are good so how does what you are saying make any logical or moral sense? and less cops only helps the gangs because there are less cops to catch them in the act

    Listen, I don't wanna twist your words (very easy to do on forums) and I feel like there is a small chance I might be doing that without trying to so I'd like you to explain. What I think you are trying to say is something like "police violence has gotten so bad that it even brings rival gangs together to do something about it", instead of "its a good idea for gang members to pick off cops like its deer hunting season"...i'm pretty sure you meant the first one, but it doesn't sound so good
     
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    I don't want open season on cops, and I agree that cutting police spending is a bad idea that will send crime in these vulnerable areas through the roof.

    But I read that these gangs have been recording cops pulling out their gun on people and the gangs don't want them using their guns anymore. Of course, the victims of cops could be just gang members and the gangs just want to protect their own, in which case a police crackdown is in order.

    Now I've been watching the violence, riots, protests, etc... all ramping up through the roof and if it's true that police are killing people with impunity and it's a real problem then ignoring cops killing people, like it's open season, then no amount of suppression will end the violence we see, but make it worse.
     
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    Has nobody clicked on the link to read the article?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-reports-chicago-gangs-formed-181326876.html

    This is neither new, nor certain. Mad Max is not around the corner.
     
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    I hope so. Nuclear weapons in the hands of American gangs, this is a problem for the whole world ..... However ... the most dangerous American gangs, "Elephants" or "Donkeys", and now control these weapons.
     
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    She was 8. Killed by BLM, because black lives matter. She was black. Say her name.

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    SAY HER NAME!

    SAY HER NAME!
     
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    If we were as dangerous say you say, we could have wiped Russia off the face of the Earth before they had the ability to retaliate.
     
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    Moving goalposts..
     
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    You have logic problems. If the United States cannot inflict a nuclear strike against Russia without retaliation, this does not mean that the United States is a peace-loving country. Is not it?
    How many wars has the United States started in the last 30 years?
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    You have the logic problem.

    We could have launched a strike without retaliation for years. Bear bombers couldn't get that far.

    A lot of that conflict you refer to was the result of us opposing Russian imperial ambitions. Which is not to say we were always the good guys, far from it.

    But when people had a choice, mostly they picked us. We were better than the alternative and not by a small amount,
     
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    Haha, my web browser (Edge) has image search.

    Her name is Secoriea Turner and she was killed after her mom drove through an illegal barricade.

    Yes, I get it, black on black crime. But it is a separate issue, and it doesn't stop the problem of black people being killed by police.
     
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    You are flattering yourself by saying that people mostly chose you.
    Let's count.
    1. 1.5 billion Chinese prefer Russia.
    2. Almost as many Hindi are not very fond of the United States.
    3. How many are North Koreans? They also want nothing to do with the United States. Is not it? At the same time, American presidents regularly threaten the North Koreans.
    4. Inhabitants of the Arab world. For some reason, one cannot see their love for the United States.
    5. Latin America. It also does not burn with love for the United States. Yes. They depend on the USA, but there is no love.
    6. Europe. Do you know how in mainland Europe, at the household level, they relate to US policy? You probably don't know. Otherwise, you would not talk about universal love for the United States.
    And I'm not talking about Southeast Asian countries like Vietnam (400 million inhabitants). Cambodia, Laos .... they all remember the "kindness" of Uncle Sam.
    What else remains? Afghanistan ?, Iran?
    It is easier to list those who love Americans. There are much fewer of them.
    So. Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Ukraine ... Britain, .... who else to name? Maybe Australia. I don't even know who else to add. Perhaps a few microscopic island states, with microscopic populations. Who else?... You suggest.
    Do not confuse addiction and love. These are different concepts. If a slave is depend of his master, this does not mean at all that the slave loves his master. More often than not, a slave will gladly slit his master's throat. Once the host economy crashes.
    And in general ... Churchill said - Britain has no friends, Britain has only temporary allies. Churchill was a master of short but very precise phrases.
    Well, you didn’t answer - how many wars the United States started in the last 30 years. Just remember how the United States bombed the sovereign state of Yugoslavia in the center of Europe. Or tell me - what's in Colin Powell's hands?
     
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    We were talking about the Cold War, and China picked us.

    Our relations with India are pretty good. You're going to need to be more specific, assuming there is a point to be made about the Hindu.

    If you had to pick one place to live the rest of your life, would you pick North Korea or South Korea. The only sane answer is SK. South Korea cost us big, what a success story.

    Some years ago, Vietnam offered to give us one of the naval bases we had in Vietnam. I can almost guarantee you that they'd still do it, with China breathing down their necks.

    You're throwing a ton of crap, hoping some of it will stick.

    Btw, it's annoys me when people lie. I said we were far from perfect, so I was not within a country mile of saying there is "perfect love". With Trump running around like a lunatic, we've pissed everybody off, except Putin.

    Btw, I've spent about 5 months in Europe. They have mixed feelings. When we dump the Orangutan, and repair our international relationships, hopefully we can win them back.
     
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    It's not about black on black crime, it's about your side out there killing innocent people, because "feelings"...
     
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    Racial riots over police action could go back decades. Here's one I dug up:
    1967 Detroit riot
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Detroit_riot

    This isn't about "feelings" this is about injustice.
     
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    Trump is your president. You voted for him. So it's not for me to talk about whether he is good for America or not.
    I can only express my opinion about this or that American president, no more.
    It seems to me that the worst American president (for America first of all) is Obama.
    Obama is the same as the Russian Gorbachev (only Khrushchev was worse than Gorbachev)
    Everything that happens in the US now (economic problems, falling GDP, rising unemployment, crime and impoverishment of the population) are the consequences of the Obama rule. Just like the villain and alcoholic Yeltsin, who destroyed the greater Russia (USSR), this is only a consequence of the rule of the villain Gorbachev.
    And today, looking from the height of the history of the destruction of the USSR, I see an amazing similarity with the processes taking place in the United States today. That is why, even during the Obama administration, I wrote predictions about what would happen in the United States in this forum. And as you can see, it turned out to be 100% right.

    If we talk about love or hatred for this or that country, I can only repeat Churchill's famous phrase - "Britain has no permanent friends, Britain has only permanent interests." This phrase applies to all countries on earth.
    And it seems to me that to consider from the point of view - everyone loves the United States, but no one loves Russia (or vice versa), it is stupid.
    And again I will give you historical analogies. The USSR was "loved" by half of the world, when the USSR was one of the superpowers and controlled half of the world. (the second half of the world "loved" the USA). But as soon as the USSR collapsed, all "love" vanished instantly. Or do you think that when the US collapses, those who now sing the asanas for the Americans will continue to express "love" for the US? Do not make me laugh. Think of Poland and Nazi Germany. There was no more loyal ally and devoted partner for Germany than Poland. So far Poland has benefited. For example, grab a piece of Czechoslovakia. Even in 1939, literally a few months remain before the start of the Second World War, and the Poles honor Gereng and everyone hopes for an alliance with Germany in the process of severing a part from the USSR (As they said, “Great Poland from sea to sea.” They hoped to get Belarus and Ukraine to Poland). What happened next, I think, you do not need to explain.

    And you may or may not believe, but in fact, despite the opposition, Russians treat Americans very well. It is a fact. I'm talking about people, of course, but not about politicians.
    The Russians perceive the Americans as they were in the era of resettlement and remained until the beginning of Reagan's rule - that is, Russians perceive Americans as very freedom-loving, hardworking, active and at the same time cheerful and kind people. This is such a stereotype in Russia to this day.
    It is clear that Russians know the reality as well, but the stereotype prevails.
    But Russians have never perceived and will not perceive Americans as an older brother. Only as an equal.
    Even in the 90s, when there was literally poverty in Russia, a civil war and a complete collapse of the economy, Russians always perceived Americans as equals.
     

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