Female Western tourists are raped in Israel

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    Lots of young female Western tourists are raped in Israel:

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.572655

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Tw...-of-raping-American-Birthright-tourist-394735

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4327236,00.html

    Israel: Alleged Rape, Larceny of French Tourist, 21, in Tel Aviv Influenced by Poor Choices

    http://stayingsafeabroad.blogspot.hr/2012/11/israel-rape-of-french-tourist-21-in-tel.html

    https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=103832

    What I would like to know is: how should this be combated? How can young Western women protect themselves when they travel to Israel? Or would it perhaps be better if they simply stayed away from that particular country?

    As always, all opinions are welcome.
     
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    It happens everywhere... why not in Israel??
     
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    New IDF Chief Rabbi Says Soldiers Can Rape Arab Women To Boost Morale
    "Col. Karim’s ruling on permitting raping non-Jewish women is similar to the fatwa of a murderous organization that’s not so far from Israel’s borders."




    http://www.mintpressnews.com/new-id...-rape-arab-women-wartime-boost-morale/218362/



    In 2012, Karim’s controversy started when the Hebrew religious website KIPA, asked him, in the light of certain biblical passages, if IDF soldiers were permitted to commit rape during wartime despite the general understanding that such an act is widely considered repugnant.

    His answer enraged many Israelis.

    “Although intercourse with a female gentile is very grave, it was permitted during wartime (under the conditions it stipulated) out of consideration for the soldiers’ difficulties,” he wrote. “And since our concern is the success of the collective in the war, the Torah permitted [soldiers] to satisfy the evil urge under the conditions it stipulated for the sake of the collective’s success.”

    In other words, soldiers can rape innocent women during times of war in order to keep their morale up.











    As this is happening the rest of the world either looks the other way or applauds in some way.
     
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    For every female raped in Israel 10 young boys are raped in Saudi Arabia or Iran. You don't need a link the thing speaks for itself.
     
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    Great post, Mr_Truth. Unfortunately, Eyal Karim isn't an exception as there are many chief rabbis who advocate the enslavement and/or mass murder of non-jews, including women and children (I posted newspaper articles about some of them in my long and informative thread Non-Jews should not be allowed to live in Israel - Israel's Chief Rabbi).

    With leaders like that, it's easy to see why so many female Western tourists are raped in Israel. But hey, we have two guys here who say that this happens everywhere, so let's just ignore the problem. Yeah, that's it.
     
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    It would be great if PF's Israeli members could give us their perspective. How do they think that this serious problem should be tackled? How can young Western women protect themselves when they travel to Israel?
     
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    An honest, credible poster would ask "are women being attacked more frequently in Israel than other parts of the mideast?"

    An honest, credible poster would know that with a strong legal system, Israel is safer for women than arab muslim countries, who are much more corrupt and given to mis-treating women, especially since in an arab muslim country a woman's word is worth 1/4 of a man's.

    An honest, credible poster would have looked at cases like this where women who are raped are not believed, or commit suicide due to the shame in arab muslim "culture" for being raped.

    An honest, credible poster would have seen the worthless thread title as the flamebait garbage it is, and properly attacked it.

    http://pamelageller.com/2013/07/statistics.html/

    "Bear in mind when considering these numbers that rape is not even considered a crime in many Muslim countries, so these numbers do not accurately reflect the true horror."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Saudi_Arabia

    "Human Rights Watch has investigated the situation, and their report concludes that the rape victim is punished when they speak out against the crime. In one case, the victim's sentence was doubled for speaking out; the court also harassed the victim's lawyer, going so far as to confiscate his professional license.[4] In 2009, the Saudi Gazette reported that a 23-year-old, unmarried woman was sentenced to one year in prison and 100 lashes for adultery. This woman had been gang-raped, became pregnant, and had tried (unsuccessfully) to abort the fetus. The flogging was postponed until after the delivery.[5] The sentences for rape cases are also extremely unbalanced in Saudi Arabia. In one example from February 2013, a Saudi preacher raped, tortured and murdered his 5-year-old daughter. He was sentenced to eight years in prison, 800 lashes, and a fine of one million riyals ($270,000 USD) to be paid to the girl's mother, his ex-wife.[6]Contrasted with this is the case of two Pakistani citizens who were beheaded by the state after being convicted of a rape.[7]"

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/1...-as-rest-world-marks-un-human-rights-day.html

    "Iranian woman to be stoned to death as world marks UN 'Human Rights Day'
     
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    An honest & credible poster wouldn't stoop to using Pamela Geller, the Zionist dominated Wikipedia [1] & "Faux" News to support his/her Islamophobic bigotry


    [1]
    "Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups"
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/aug/18/wikipedia-editing-zionist-groups

    EXCERPT "Now two Israeli groups seeking to gain the upper hand in the online debate have launched a course in "Zionist editing" for Wikipedia, the online reference site.

    Yesha Council, representing the Jewish settler movement, and the rightwing Israel Sheli (My I srael) movement, ran their first workshop this week in Jerusalem, teaching participants how to rewrite and revise some of the most hotly disputed pages of the online reference site."CONTINUED

     
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    Derrrrrrrr.....Geller's website did not conduct the polls and research low information poster - had you read her article she cited sources like the NYT, Guardian, Womenstats, etc. She simply reported what they found. How bad are your reading comprehension skills?

    Second, there is no such as anti-islamic "bigotry"; it is impossible to be bigoted against a belief system. Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........
     
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    If you think Geller's "source" choices were objective you're simply exposing your own lack of information :

    "Pamela Geller and the Professional Islamophobia Business"
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/todd-green-phd/pamela-geller-and-the-pro_b_7218446.html

    EXXCERPT "The great poet Maya Angelou once said, “Hate, it has caused a lot of problems in the world, but has not solved one yet.” Sadly, such wisdom is lost on the likes of Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, and Geert Wilders, the unholy trinity of professional Islamophobia. They make their living off of preaching hatred of Islam, benefitting financially and politically from dehumanizing and demonizing Muslims."CONTINUED
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#By_country

    http://www.themedialine.org/featured/rates-rape-sexual-violence-high-middle-east/

    "This weekend, countries around the world marked the United Nations (UN) International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women. The World Health Organization says that at least one in three women worldwide will fall victim to some type of violence due to her gender. In the Middle East, the rate of rape, sexual violence and other forms of violence against women is high. While countries like Jordan are embarking on ways to change legislation regarding sexual violence and rape, cases of violence towards women have increased dramatically in war-torn regions like Syria and Iraq as various groups and leaders vie for control. “Violence towards women has risen since the Arab Uprising (a region-wide movement, which began in 2011, calling for greater freedoms and democracy),” Dr. Nihaya Daoud, a researcher at Ben-Gurion University, told The Media Line. “When you have political violence, you also get domestic violence.”"

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/08/middleeast/isis-rape-theology-soldiers-rape-women-to-make-them-muslim/
     
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    This Jimmy Rivers character has accused me of being a bigot, hater, etc., yet he has no problem quoting from Pamela Geller, a jewish supremacist whose anti-Muslim hate propaganda is so extreme that she has been banned from entering Great Britain. Good grief.

    Pamela Geller. "Trust me."

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    Fail. You avoided that her sources were the Guardian and other news organizations. Keep flailing.
     
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    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-arab-women-factbox-idUSBRE9AB00I20131112

    "22. EGYPT

    Sexual violence, harassment and trafficking combined with a breakdown of security, high rates of female genital mutilation and a rollback of freedoms since the 2011 revolution put Egypt at the bottom of the poll.

    * 99.3 percent of women and girls are subjected to sexual harassment.

    * 27.2 million women and girls - or 91 percent of the female population - are victims of female genital mutilation (FGM).

    * 63 percent of adult women are literate.

    (Sources: U.N. Women, UNICEF, World Bank)"


    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty

    "Some Muslims are fond of condemning western morality – alcoholism, nudity, premarital sex and homosexuality often being cited as examples. But Muslims do not have a monopoly on morality. In the west, child marriages and sex with children are illegal. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for many Muslim countries."

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8663/germany-migrants-rape

    "Sexual violence in Germany has reached epidemic proportions since Chancellor Angela Merkel allowed into the country more than one million mostly male migrants from Africa, Asia and the Middle East."
     
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    I am not sure that this is happening only in Israel. Just gets better exposure .
     

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