Final Arizona audit results show 20,000+ ballots with issues but they are not a smoking gun.

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  1. Matthewthf

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    Republicans desperately wanted a win from the Arizona audit and they did not get it. There was no widespread voter fraud but descrepencies were found with over 50,000 ballots. This won't affect the certification but if fixed could change the numbers and shows problems with election security. Democrats are trying to ignore these issues as if they are not anything to worry about.

    The questions now are what will happen with these ballots and who will they favour? Trump or Biden?

    I am actually wanting opinions on if these:

    23,344 mail in ballots counted by people who moved.

    2,081 ballots from people who moved out of state.

    10,342 people who voted in multiple counties

    9,041 more ballots returned by voter than received.

    2,592 more duplicates than original ballots.

    Some of these were contested at the hearing. Thoughts?
     
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    According to Fox News Trump supporters cheated:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ma...ilar-vote-total-to-2020-presidential-election
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    The final report, conducted by the cybersecurity consulting firm Cyber Ninjas, contained allegations of possible impropriety related to mail-in balloting and duplicate ballots but confirmed that the forensic audit found more ballots in favor of Joe Biden and less for former President Donald Trump than in November.
     
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    Hopefully they will find opportunities to reduce the questionable ballots from 20k to 2k. If they save even ONE legal Vote, it's well worth it!

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    "Cyber Ninja" Dougie Logan fleeced the crackpots, taking them on a long and winding road to nowhere with the meter running.

    It reminds me of Conan O'Brien's sidekick Andy Richter's comment after the late Norm MacDonald
    had maundered through one of his interminable, tedious, pointless "jokes."


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    "“It’s like somebody saying, ‘I gotta show you something,’
    and then they take you on a four mile hike to show you a dog turd."


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    "Well, there it is!

    That'll be $5.7 million...
    Please tell other states about our services."
     
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    This has become a Marshall Applewhite sect with goofy red hats.

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    "Alright already! Even Trumpers bankrolled by Trumpers now admit Trump lost!"


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    "What they really are saying is that
    I WON!"

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    "THAT SETTLES IT! OUR GOD EMPEROR WON!"
     
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    Are these not the numbers that should be here?

    Maricopa County officials deleted election-related computer data the day before the voting machines were handed over to the audit team.

    0 mail in ballots counted by people who moved.
    0 ballots from people who moved out of state.
    0 people who voted in multiple counties
    0 more ballots returned by voter than received.
    0 more duplicates than original ballots.
     
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    Where did you get this information? Why wasn't it part of the audit report?
     
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    It doesn't take widespread voter fraud to change the outcome of an election. The numbers above do not give an A-OK everything was just fine in AZ in fact it points out serious problems. As I have said since last November the investigations into the elections should not have been focused solely on did Biden or Trump win but MUST include ALL down ballot votes too. They are important too. We have elections that end up in TIES, just ONE fraudulent vote could change the outcome. As I have noted in 2000 who became President was decided by 238 votes in one state. The claims those especially on the left try to make that voter fraud does not matter because it has to be WIDESPREAD in order to be a problem are patently false. Yet the Democrats want to make it easier and easier to engage in voter fraud by their objections to reasonable and pragmatic measure to ensure the integrity of our elections.
     
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    He said "should be there" not were there.
     
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    It should certainly be the goal instead of the " a "little bit" of voter fraud is OK"
     
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    What fraud? The cyber ninja fraudit only proved themselves to be the frauds. They completely failed to show even the slightest tease of vote fraud.
     
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    Again: where did he get this information and why wasn't it in the report?
     
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    The ONLY thing this audit has shown is how desperate and delusional the MAGA crowd has become.

    Time to turn the page.
     
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    Wow I turned the page and looks like there is still more to uncover.... Those darn Dominion machines keep turning up with altered and deleted stuff... logs being written over... to a person with 40 years of machine troubleshooting and repair of a multitude of software driven equipment experience I find that very significant and telling...

    https://www.scribd.com/document/527...e-III-Results-Details-003#download&from_embed

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    Sell that garbage to someone else.
     
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    Nope... those are the facts... the dominion machines appear to have been tampered with....there need to be further looking into it all...
     
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    Again he said

    Are these not the numbers that should be here?

    Not that they are there. And don't you agree those are the numbers we should strive for?
     
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    23,344 mail in ballots counted by people who moved.

    2,081 ballots from people who moved out of state.

    10,342 people who voted in multiple counties

    9,041 more ballots returned by voter than received.

    2,592 more duplicates than original ballots.

    It should certainly be the goal, O numbers such illegal and fraudulent votes, instead of the " a "little bit" of voter fraud is OK"
     
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    I ask again.....what fraud? Your entire post showed nothing.
     
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    I voted by mail 1X. I had to, because I moved, but my residency wasn't established yet top where I move to.

    Just because ballots were mailed in by people who vote, doesn't mean there is something wrong.
     
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    23,344 mail in ballots counted by people who moved.

    2,081 ballots from people who moved out of state.

    10,342 people who voted in multiple counties

    9,041 more ballots returned by voter than received.

    2,592 more duplicates than original ballots.


    It should certainly be the goal, O numbers such illegal and fraudulent votes, instead of the " a "little bit" of voter fraud is OK"
     
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    AND BIDENS VOTES WENT UP AND TRUMPS WENT DOWN
     
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    AND BIDENS illegal VOTES WENT UP. The tampered with Dominion machine are something that needs to be looked into.. when databases are purged and then the machines handed over to the auditors, someone needs to go to jail for tampering with evidence.
     
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    Not facts things that might be...
     
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    1. More duplicates than origional ballots: People asked to resubmit ballots because of errors filling them out or because they forgot to sign mail in ballots (in my state voters may ask for up to 3 to fix mistakes), ; they are not counted twice.
    2.More ballots returned than received: People did not vote by mail but in person and are required to hand in their old unmarked ballot to do so, also see number 1
    3. People who voted in multiple counties. Should not happen no one should have more than one vote counted unless they tried to vote in one county and were told they had to go to another because of moving or redistricting.
    4.People who moved out of state: like people attending college yet keeping their parent's address, or US military overseas?
    5. People who moved: people who moved but stayed in the same county, perfectly legal also see number 4

    One problem with the Arizona audit was that the auditors used address lists instead of voting lists. This in itself leads to errors.

    If these things truely happened the way many people are intrepreting them why are the Arizona Republicans who paid for this not going forward with their challenges? Are they in on it too?
     
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