FISA Judges Have Been Informed - What Are They Doing????

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You want me to prove Reagan said that?
     
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    Wait....you cant disprove it, but you claim it all a lie ?

    We know for a fact many things isn’t he dossier have been proven as facts. We also do not know what parts of the dossier were used to get the warrant.

    You have NO proof that anyone lied to the FISA court.....but FFS lets just keep making threads to debate something that you cant prove.....
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Yeah what they are accused of lying of was not illegal. I'm all ears what was? What materiality to a crime is it?
     
  4. Phyxius

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    Show of hands, folks - is PP really that obtuse, or is he trying to dodge being unable to provide an answer?
     
  5. ronv

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    I'm sure she is heartbroken. Everyone knows January in Afghanistan is like paradise.
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  6. The Mello Guy

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    Your argument is that if you are good at obstruction justice you should get away with it lol
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    No but I asked you a question

    Yeah what they are accused of lying of was not illegal. I'm all ears what was it? What materiality to a crime is it?
     
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    could it be because he is nothing more than a useful idiot?



    Don't have a clue. We'll have to wait and see. Trump's tax returns should be interesting.



    Yes I am aware of that. Again, you seem to think that there was no probable cause, when its pretty damn clear he was, if nothing, more a target of russian intelligence agents, exposed by FBI counter-intel operations.

    Perhaps you should actually read the FISA warrant.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/22/politics/read-carter-page-fisa-documents/index.html
     
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    the lying itself the material crime. Doesn't matter if the lying was about legal activity, but of course that begs the question why lie if it wasn't illegal?
     
  10. ronv

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    I'm pretty sure you don't want to count Manafort.
    But just about everything he lied about was illegal and he is convicted of a lot of it.
     
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    Pelosi said she as going to visit a war zone with her husband and extended family. Last time I checked, taking the husband or any family to a war zone would be illegal. Trump saved her ass again!
     
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    You mean the 93 family members?
     
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    Don't know? How large is her extended family?
    I read that last time she was speaker she racked up over 2 million dollars of military plane expense that included taking family, lots of booze, etc.
     
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    I ask because I think you are a victim of, wait for it, Fake News.
     
  15. Bluesguy

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    Manafort's crimes were before the campaign and had nothing to do with it and are beging prosecuted by the US Attorney of Lower New York.
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    Perjury has to be material to an underlying crime. He's charge with false answers about things that were not material to a crime. Had there been no investigation into these legal acts there would be no crime. They are all process crimes and Mueller is no closer to finding anything in his mandate than he was on day one.
     
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    What's fake besides Nancy? Here are some Facts: During the two-year period, Pelosi amassed $2,100,744.59 in costs to the military…

    https://www.libertyheadlines.com/pelosis-luxurious-trips-taxpayers-millions-military/

    That of course does not include the 12 seat private jet she uses at government expense to commute from SF to DC, a lot.
     
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    So Clinton didn't commit perjury? Because getting a blowjob in DC isn't a crime unless money exchanges hands.

    You can't have it both ways...
     
  19. ronv

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    Just a reminder:
    You mean the 93 family members?

    Yes, Flying gov't officials around is expensive.
    Take Trump for example. Each trip to Florida is about 3.6 million.
    He took 17 in his first year and a half, just to Florida.
     
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    Being President of the United states comes with some privileges not afforded to anyone else. His expenses are in line with Bush and Obama.

    Did you know he donates all of his salary to charity too?
     
  21. ronv

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    Really? You should get out more. Trump's travels are a joke.
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    You do understand that all the people traveling with him stay at his properties and that money will go to him??
    You should break away from your right wing blogs once in a while to get some facts.
     
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    But they did with a little help from Berry?....

    "The NRC never issued an export license to the Russian firm, a fact so engrained in the narrative of the Uranium One controversy that it showed up in The Washington Post’s official fact-checker site this week. “We have noted repeatedly that extracted uranium could not be exported by Russia without a license, which Rosatom does not have,” the Post reported on Monday, linking to the 2011 Barrasso letter.

    Yet NRC memos reviewed by The Hill show that it did approve the shipment of yellowcake uranium — the raw material used to make nuclear fuel and weapons — from the Russian-owned mines in the United States to Canada in 2012 through a third party. Later, the Obama administration approved some of that uranium going all the way to Europe, government documents show."

    https://thehill.com/policy/national...deal-led-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show
     
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    Democratic Underground doesn't appeal to me. You read Time Mag too?
     
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    I'm a collector. I'm looking for the one Stormy spanked him with.
     
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    You need to get rid of that source.
    Manafort was a busy guy.
    A couple of bank frauds and some FARA violations.
    Edit:
    No you got the trifecta.
    He's in Virginia.
    Maybe you have him confused with Cohen.
     
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