Fix America's Emergency Laws

Being governed against the will of the people is entirely un-American.

 

I thought they fixed them back in the 1970's and what we have now is the fix.

 

The job loss rate bottomed out January of 2009. The recession ended June of 2009. Both before anything in the ARRA actual was enacted. The ARRA was supposed to hold unemployment to 8% and then quickly recover within the year. Instead unemployment soared to 10% and staying over 8% for the next 4 years all the while the LFPR was in a dive. And from 2010 the Republicans were more than willing to meet the Democrats half way and pass measures that would have helped get us into a full recovery but the Democrats were having nothing of it and did nothing except pass higher taxes and more anti-business regulations. But the more the Republicans took back power the better things got and once Trump was elected they went into high gear.

 

What rules in this "debate", which is like a bunch of third-graders trading insults over fundamental elements of Civics that they should have learned in High School.

(Like we're are a republic and NOT a democracy! From simpletons who know the meaning of neither!)

Duhhhhhhhhhh !

 

Obama ignored the authority of congress when he made a deal with iran which was never submitted to the senate for ratification

 

BEYOND ITS NOSE

And any Replicant should but doesn't understand PRECISELY what happened during the Great Recession - the birth-child of Bush-the-last (Thank God!)

Which goes like this:
*US banks had gouged on a free-for-all in realty lending without any qualifying basis for the loans made starting from the early 1980s. People were borrowing without any corroborative ability to pay the loans! Which were simply abolished and the property confiscated. (But the bad-loans continued to pile-up in terms of US overall debt!)
*The fit-hit-the-shan in 2008 when, as a parting gift of Georgie-Porgy, The Great Recession whacked America and unemployment started to sky-rocket. Wall Street had seen the debt-overhang piling up and suggested IN 2010 to its clients to sell-out. That MASSIVE debt-sellout sparked the Great Recession.
*See a factual piece of evidence from the Bureau of Labor Statistics of plummeting unemployment, here: Situation - Employment-to-population Ratio.
*Obama, in the year following his entry into office as PotUS, got the Dem-run HofR to create and pass the ARRA-bill (2009) that effectively spiked an exploding unemployment rate at 10% and turned it around.
*What did only 37% of voting Americans do in the 2010 midterms? With consummate stoopidity, they voted control of the HofR over to the Replicants. Who officially pronounced cruelly that there would be NO FURTHER STIMULUS SPENDING. And why? Because they wanted Obama to lose the 2012-election due to high-unemployment and they did not give-a-damn about unemployment!
*Did they change their mind one-iota - that is, vote for some more stimulus-spending to reduce unemployment. NOPE!
*If you will look at the E-to-p Ratio linked above, no stimulus-spending meant that from November 2009 to February of 2014 NO ADDITIONAL JOBS WERE CREATED IN THE US.
*Finally, after five long and dreary years, simply tired of the situation, the American public finally rekindled Demand for goods/services and the E-to-p Ratio gradually improved.
*But from no help whatsoever from the Replicant Party!
*None, zilch, nothing - and just the opposite!

THAT is the short political history of what happened to Uncle Sam at the hands of the Replicant Party - the party that cannot see beyond its selfish nose ... !

 

As the Dems/left wanted them to do and then sanctioned Freddie and Fannie to guaranty and buy up the loans.

The recession ended June of 2009.

Yes it bottomed out before anything in the ARRA bill went into effect.

He entered into office as POTUS January of 2009 when the unemployment rate was 7.5% and two years after the Democrats had taken back the Congress, when the unemployment rate was just 4.5%. His ARRA was supposed to hold unemployment to just 8% and then quickly recover it but as you noted it soared to 10% and you failed to note it stayed over 8% for the next for years while the LFPR was on a downhill ride.

And you think the Democrats want Trump to win the 2020 election and will work to make sure he does? The Republicans offered to work with the Dems and the Dems including Obama told them to take a hike.

The $800,000,000,000 Obama stimulus not only failed by his own measure it made matters WORSE. There is a time when you stop digging your hole especially one you are throwing good money down. Remember the "well there weren't that many shovel ready jobs" Obama line?

Yes and the previous stimulus-spending didn't create any in fact we lost more.

It was as the Republicans took back more and more power that the economy finally improved.

No it's the history of a party and a president that refused to acknowledged what worked in the past and instead engaged in the same failed policies and refused to admit they were not working.

 

In what state does that occur?

 

The problem is that you promise never to understand. Understand?

 

They are beyond comprehending. The factual evidence is to much for them.

It's a waste of bandwidth on dunces ...

 

The state of confusion.

 

Is that why the turtle changed all the senate rules? Yeah, him.

 

Lets go over some data here. Trump has declared national emergency. Horrible. Obama declared 13 national emergencies, and 9 are still in effect. Bush declared 14 national emergencies and 10 are still in effect. Clinton declared 14 national emergencies and 6 are still in effect. So technically only 4% of the national emergencies in effect today are from Trump. Maybe we need to make this conversation about not just Trump but also about the overuse of national emergencies in general.

 

Ok with me.

 

It's kinda-sorta stoopid to just add the numbers and try to make a cogent argument that "he wasn't the only one". (What you are mentioning as the sins of other presidents that are simply NOT COMPARABLE with what Donald Dork has done. Which is painfully obvious: Most knowledgeable people say the wall with Mexico is unnecessary (because people keep coming in by other methods most of them quite legal).

All that Donald Dork wants to do is quit his stinking presidency and be able to point to the wall as His Legacy to American history!

Bollocks to that nation, most of the country has said in return!

Really ... the Replicant Dorks on this forum need to get their act together to even TRY to argue that this presidency is in any way comparable to past presidencies. Except one: Richard Nixon who as well was "shoved out of the White House".

You Replicants have a long history of putting incompetents up for the Executive Office and the American people bite "hook, line and sinker"! Meaning what?

This: Regardless of the manipulative dishonesty of the Electoral College that flips a national vote from the winner to the loser, Replicants cannot see the patent dishonesty of what happened! It is beyond your comprehension of the distinction of Right from Wrong. All that matters is the result!

And a good percentage of the American electorate (but NOT a majority) seem to think the same ... !

 

Then you are absurdly blind to the facts of the matter.

Those coming in over land-lines are, for the most, not even hirable because they have no education whatsoever. And, those that do are riding in and showing their visas at national bonafide entry points.

America woefully needs "qualified people". And in the Hi-Tech Business they are pulling them in from India. Howzat?

Because India educates these people FREE, GRATIS AND FOR NOTHING. A postsecondary education there costs a pittance.

Why can we not do the same, and educate our high-schoolers for a very small annual tuition-fee (say less than $1K) at state-schools funded by the national Dept. of Education?

Instead of pissing-away more than half the Discretionary Budget on the DoD! Don't believe that? Then OPEN YOUR EYES!

Meaning this: There have been a number of assessments of the Discretionary Budget breakdown like a pie-chart. Some have actually come under investigation, and what results is the correction made here by "PolitiFact".

Politifact maintains nonetheless that the DoD eats about half the Discretionary Budget. Now YOU EXPLAIN why a nation at peace let's that waste happen when it cannot even educate its children to a necessary postsecondary level* such that they can obtain decent jobs!

*In terms of postsecondary schooling accomplishment the NCES estimates this (from here) - excerpt:

 

Geez, you don't have to have a cow over my opinion.

 

Wyoming, N Dakota, S Dakota, Arkansas etc. All of those states citizens carry 3 times the weight of a citizen of CA, in terms of electoral college votes.

 

How does one person in that state have more voting power than another person in that state?

 

A voter in wyomings vote carries about 3 times more weight than a voter voting in California.

 

Obama never did this.....

if Trump gets away with it, Dems will use an Emergency actions to save Social Security and Medicare

personally I think Republicans will stop Trump from doing it as they do not want Social Security and Medicare saved, this scares them more then Mexicans do

 

We do have 10 million illegals in this country which is a shockingly high number and we do have drugs crossing into our country every day. So I think this is an "emergency" if all the other executive orders were "emergencies", and it has been an "emergency" for decades.

 

Nope they vote in different elections they only weigh against other voters in their state.

 

How so? And what is the immediate emergency?

 

j

nope. their vote carries more weight in the presidential election, than someone from California. About 3 times as much.