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  1. jrr777

    jrr777 Well-Known Member

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    So you just skipped over the coriolis effect, and how it plays into it all. Why?

    If your on a semi trucks flat bed, and your traveling at 75 mph, you walk to the front at 3 mph, than your traveling at 78 mph (3 mph faster than the truck). If you walk to the back at 3 mph, than "you" are traveling at 72 mph (3 mph slower than the truck). If the flat bed was long enough, walking to the front you would arrive at your destination before the truck. Walking to the back, you would arrive after the truck, yet your destination is the same.

    On an escelator, who get's to the destination first, the one walking with the escelator, or against it, even though the distance is the same?
     
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    When will someone explore the other side of the Flat Earth disc ?

    Please explain how/why or how come NOT.

    Gracias.


    Moi :oldman:
    Support Massive Earth Crust
    Displacement events!


     
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    You must first get rid of "space" as you think you know it. Your trying to use a model on another model. For example most globers would say, how is there night and day on a flat earth? This is because they believe the sun to be 93 million miles away, and that the sun is extremely massive. But none of these are applicable in the flat earth model.

    The enclosed earth does not allow us to exit and see that which is below, to the side, above, etc etc.
     
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    How far down can we drill down that disc, hypothetically or not?
    How thick is that disc? It does have dimensions. Radius and such.
    And what of the observation that as we drill down, things get warmer.
    Maybe when we punch through the disc we find ourselves in a sea of magma like stuff?

    Pass the :weed: Heavy thinking required
     
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    The deepest hole ever conducted by man was in Russia. It goes just barely under 8 miles deep, yet they claim they know the center of earth is molten iron, and extreme magnetism. Yet when magnets are heated up, they lose their magnetism. But the main fact is how do they know what's down there, when they have not even been through what they call the "earth's crust"? Sonar or GPR (ground penetrating radar), can't even go that deep.

    How is it hotter temperatures were recorded. I have done utility construction before, did it for 3.5 years. I put in cable, gas, electric (power), water, sewer, fiber optics (just an un-applicable side note: when a cities main fiber optic line is hit, it can bankrupt a utility company, for it is roughly 1 million per hour that it's down), but the point being, even at the same depth our drill or boring head, could get far hotter depending on the "friction", type of rock, numerous things that would not show accurate temperatures because the heat caused by the drill. A thermometer outside the drill would be no different, your still recording heat from the drill.
     
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    is 'flat earth' anything like Hawking's 'doughnut shaped' universe where what we perceive as a straight line extended 'forever' actually bends and corkscrews around in reality to eventually form a loop back on itself without ever altering its vector?

    Or are we actually living on a disk with a determinable edge?
     
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    You say flat earthers as if we all agree on everything pertaining to a flat earth. But just like the sphere and other topics of science, there are numerous disagreements. I myself lean towards the scriptures. Which talks about the four corners of the earth, the ends of the earth, the immovable earth (scientists say all it does is move, that's all it does). And then I use history those who came up with the theory, what sort of people they was around, their symbolism, etc etc.

    The Free Mason's have their number one symbolism as the "square and compass", the Bible speaks of the four corners (square/rectangle), and how the waters are encompassed with bounds ("He has encompassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end.").

    It is of my opinion thus far that the earth is a square or rectangle, within that square or rectangle, the sun melts a circle within the ice. Encompassing the waters with bounds, and having the four corners, and ends of the earth. However don't think the end's are close, they are beyond the 80 degree south, where no light or heat can get to. It's not an easy task getting there.
     
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    Do people or other forms of life live on the other side?
     
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    Are mashed potatoes suppose to be crunchy?
     
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    I skipped over it because it's not relative in the situation.
    No, you would not arrive before the truck (and technically you're not walking at 78 mph)
     
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    I was thinking of those deepest diamond mines in S. Africa.
    So deep they get hot from the molten material under the disc.


    Okay, hypothetically - we can drill into the disc as deep as we wish.
    Will we come out the other side.
    Will we just find foundation on foundation including magma until
    something we cannot fathom what turns up,
    Like The Great Turtle. :worship:
    [​IMG]

    May the Great Turtle never falter nor a celestial elephant stumble :pray:

    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    :nana: :flagcanada:
     
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    So with only going 8 miles deep into the earth, you "believe" there is "magma" down there? Scientists "claim" there is magma down there, but they don't know, and literally cannot "prove" it.

    Your image above, is no different than "your" image of earth. They're both cartoons!

    Once they hit around 8 miles, they can't go any further, something is there saying, "hitherto shall thou come but no further, and here shall thy proud waves be stayed."

    Like the bowling ball your on, nothing but a fantasy, an imaginative lie, yet so loved. People love the lies, and hate the truth. Truth is mocked, ridiculed, hated, persecuted, and lies are adorned, wanted, loved. To be fake is what people want, to impress rather to be themselves.

    Men act like something they're not, women paint the face to something they're not, these are loved and popular, yet lies and not truth. Fame & fortune is what's chased and dreamed of, love is what's lost and hated on. Despisers of those that are good, and that which is good.
     
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    Clearly you can’t arrive at the destination before or after the truck while still being on it. When your understanding of something doesn’t make logical sense, it should be apparent that your understanding is wrong.

    The key thing here is that speed is always in reference to a fixed point. The truck is travelling at 75mph in reference to the ground. You’re travelling at 3mph in reference to the truck but 78mph in reference to the ground. If the truck was 3 miles long, you could walk from the back to the front in an hour, during which time the truck will have travelled 75 miles. You would then be 78 miles from where you started in relation to the ground while the truck would be 75 miles from where it started. If the truck had been stationary for the hour, you’d be 3 miles from where you started.

    Significantly for this thread, if the truck was enclosed (and had very good suspension), you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between the two scenarios.
     
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    Are you kidding me, you know the point that is being made. If not it is your understanding that is lacking. Do you even know what is being discussed?

    If your walking toward the front of the truck, your going faster than the truck. If your walking toward the back of the truck, your going slower than the truck. How is this any different than the spinning of the earth. If your flying with the spin, your going faster than the spin, at the amount of speed in which your flying. So when flying against the spin, your going faster across the surface of the earth, yet this does not occur.

    It's the same damn thing of an escalator, when walking with it, you get to the end faster than walking against it, even though the escalator either with or against, is the same length.

    It doesn't take a genius.
     
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    I understand completely. You don't understand key elements of the physics here. Again, you need to establish what fixed point you're measuring the relative speeds of the different elements in these examples. If you measure their speeds relative to the same point, everything will align.
     
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    I wanna go to the earth's edge rather to the moon anyway. Never been to the edge, and heard all about the moon.
     
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    Well that's easy, all I have to do is use computer graphics, put it on a film, and once you see it on your tv, you'll believe it!
     
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    What are you talking about man? How is walking on the spin of the earth any different than an escalator, please explain? In the context of the debate.

    Any given point of the earth (land) at the equator, and it will travel roughly 17.28 miles in one minute. Do you understand the speed that is required to go 25,000 miles in 24 hours? Can you get into any machine and achieve that and or outrun the sun?
     
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    In the context of this "debate" there is no difference. Everything I'd said applies to all the examples in the same way. That's my point. The problem is that the massive scale of planetary motion and the fact we're entirely inside that system makes it very difficult to see the equivalence. Of course, it helps if you actually want to understand.

    Totally irrelevant. The physics is exactly the same regardless of the scale or speeds.
     
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    Can you get on any escalator that travels at 17.28 miles per minute? So your analogy of how "big" the earth is, is irrelevant, for it spins faster. When standing on an escalator and your not moving but the escalator is, are you not in motion in the same manner as standing on earth? And if not, how is it different?

    This is an edit: My bad, I see what your saying. Your actually agreeing with me, and neither of us understand if indeed it's applicable to earth's spin/rotation.

    The problem is, earth is not a ball.
     
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    No, it definitely applies, the principle is fairly straight forwards. You just don't want it to apply but you somehow think it supports your argument against a round Earth.

    Possibly, but nothing about the relative motion stuff helps you with your (non-)hypothesis. :cool:
     
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    What are you talking about, if traveling or flying with the spin of the earth, is no different than against the spin of the earth, than nothing is moving. If the earth is not moving it must be flat, for the heavens revolve around the earth. And water cannot take form to the exterior of any shape, with any observations, experiments, etc, etc. Matter of fact with observations & experiments, water will always remain flat at the surface, this is non-negotiable and or unarguable.
     
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    Except the evidence proves you wrong.

    The earth is not flat no matter which interpretation you use
     
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    Kids!
     
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    Yes childish people willfully ignoring facts and indisputable evidence.

    Exactly what you do
     
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