Flat earth - nasa is busted!

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  1. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is absolutely ZERO legitimate scenarios where the earth could be flat.

    The first video that you linked is proof that the Earth is spherical because:
    1) the earth is clearly spinning and you can see the land masses circling around in an arc.
    2) the moon is orbiting the Earth,
    3) you can literally fly planes and sail in boats around the Earth, I promise you they won't drop off once the reach the "edge."
    4) one has to assume that there would be fairly widespread differences in gravity at various points on a flat Earth.
    5) There are no flat land masses in our solar system

    In addition, it's relatively easy to prove that the earth is round (actually an "oblate" spheroid) because this can be determined both by GPS. Let's say that I have a GPS device and I'm in the US and you take a GPS device to Australia. If the Earth was flat, it would calculate a much shorter distance between us than the a spherical Earth because we would be in closer proximity due to less land mass separating us.
     
  2. jrr777

    jrr777 Well-Known Member

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    All devices are programmed to the sphere earth. Meaning if they programmed it correctly your argument would be void, or you would never try to make it.
     
  3. jrr777

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    The first video, are you kidding me! It's supposedly a time lapse video of the darkside of the moon, yet the clouds stay the same throughout the duration. I did not mention this earlier just see how many would catch it, nobody has, because they don't care to seek the truth. Those clouds should not stay the same period.

    The sun, and moon do orbit the earth, just not like how you think. I posted this before but I will do it again, you don't have to watch the entire video, fast forward to 20 seconds.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdUdJDYmEjk

    On a flat earth you can fly and sail around the land masses and end up where you started. Picture a dinner plate, take your finger and go around the edges or even inside the edges a bit, your finger is the boat.

    There is no such thing as gravity. What makes things fall is buoyancy, density, pressure, and electromagnetism.

    You say there are no flat land masses in our solar system. Where is your proof there are even planets? Don't laugh, where is your proof? If you send me an image take a close look at it first.
     
  4. jrr777

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    The veil is being lifted as we speak. What will you say when this is proven?
     
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    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. That's not how it works.

    So where are these "edges"? Why hasn't anyone found them.
     
  6. jrr777

    jrr777 Well-Known Member

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    That is not according to me, rather some flat earth researchers, I lean towards (along with others), there would be no difference. If you ever happen to watch a sunset from about 1-2 hours out, pay attention.

    At a length of 2 football fields in total darkness, if you stand at one end, another person at the other end turns on a flashlight, will you see it? And upon walking closer to the flashlight, will the light source increase in size? If you say yes, than replace the flashlight with a candle! A miniscule level. You guys prove nothing. And completely dodge the fact that the OP addresses.
     
  7. fifthofnovember

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    A commercial airliner from Australia to Chile only takes 12h40min to make the trip. If the flat Earth were true, this trip would have to span the entire Earth (with the shortest distance going through the Arctic, lol) and be one of the longest trips possible. Yet one could go there and back in just over a day.

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  8. jrr777

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    That's like me saying, "where are all these so called planets, where is the proof?"
     
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    If it is "proven" with the same bogus evidence and complete ignoring of and ignorance of fact and logic, as is the case with your silly "flat earth" claims you regurgitate over and over, I'll say it isn't proven at all.

    When you claim the Bible is the word of God and that is says the earth is flat, you aren't doing your cause any favors because of the complete failure of your arguments and position.

    If to believe in God you have to believe the word is flat, it's not a very good case for God.

    All you are proving is that some folks who believe in religion do so irrationally and to the exclusion of logic, reason, and fact. I see a lot of that here, particularly among our conservative friends.
     
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    Sorry, I proved the fallacy in your OP directly, and you've utterly failed to contest, much less controvert, my position.

    I've presented numerous proof that don't rely on pictures (which themselves are proof) and you have repeatedly and utterly failed to address, much less controvert, them. Once again in this thread as the other three on this subject you've started recently.

    You can delude yourself. But when you bear false witness like this, you will be called out.
     
  11. jrr777

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    http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/A1V01B57VaL.jpg

    What you think there are zero anomalies with the sphere earth model? Heliocentric model is a sphere earth sitting in constant light. To see that light one must be on the area of the earth that is facing the light. No matter which direction a sphere spins in light, half of the sphere is in light and the other in dark. So why does it not get dark where I am, until 9:00 pm to 9:15 pm, and than light at 5:15 am to 5:30 am? That is only 8 hours and 15 minutes, I should be in darkness for 12 hours, along with light, the duration of light and dark no matter your location should always be the same.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1WOOa8cMJw
     
  12. Iriemon

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    Your question only arises because of a completely false premise, by which you once again demonstrate your ignorance of fact and irrationality of reason on this subject.
     
  13. jrr777

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    Enlighten me! The OP is about what? The two images that nasa gave us. How do they hold truth? Your answer with the Eifel Tower is non-applicable. Where is your answer to the OP?
     
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    You need it. For your question to have validity the axis of the Earth would have to be perpendicular to the Earth's orbit around the sun. It is not. It is 23.5* tilted. As the Earth orbits the sun, the tilt means more of the the Northern Hemisphere faces the sun in the summer, and more of the Southern Hemisphere in the winter.

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    Didn't you ever take a science class in your life?

    Let me guess, you were home schooled, right?


    Of course I did. I proved your OP logical is a fallacy based on your apparent complete ignorance of respective, as demonstrated by the Eiffel Tower photos.

    Don't bear false witness like this. It's a no-no in your book.

    If you are nearer and object, perspective makes it relatively bigger even if it is actually smaller. Hold up your thumb and put it next to sun, and the sun will be about the same thickness as your thumb. So does that mean the sun is the same size as your thumb?

    That is the fallacy of your silly OP argument.
     
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    Your still using perspective, when there is none in the Apollo 11 image. Take one more look at Apollo 11, picture yourself going in the direction your back would be facing while looking at the image. The earth is going to get smaller period.

    It's not complete, but it's coming! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH3Gwt1ugr0 You want me to address your previous questions, it takes time. Do you have 3 hours?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, and so is the nearer object - your thumb or the hand or the Moon. Hold your thumb right next to your eye and your thumb is much bigger than the sun. Hold your thumb still and move back until your arm is outstretched. Now your thumb is the same size. Cut your thumb off and back up 10' and its smaller than the sun. The sun is farther away too, but its relative size has not perceptively changed.

    Same thing with the little Effeil tower picture. Back up 100 yards and the Eiffel Tower will be a little smaller in perspective, but the guy's finger and thumb will be tiny and much smaller relative to the Tower.

    Still more dodging and false witness.

    Why do you dodge my questions?

    Did you ever take a science class? You were home schooled, weren't you?

    I cannot fathom how anyone with proper schooling could be so ignorant.

    You must either be home schooled, or just trolling.
     
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    We are aware. You may have seen the last 10 threads you started where we completely debunked your conspiracy theory. Looks like we may need to look into you trolling.
     
  18. fifthofnovember

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    Complete deflection. When it is pointed out that the flat Earth model fails, trying to cast doubt on another model (through scientific ignorance) does not fix the problems with yours. I could explain the effect that you call an "anomaly", but that would just be falling for your distraction. The fact that one can get from Chile to Australia in a little over 12 hours completely shatters your myth. Checkmate.
     
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    It would have to be another, identical Earth to keep the illusion going. Since some scientists feel there are an infinite number of almost-identical worlds in different dimensions, maybe in a sense the flat earthers have some basis for what they say...?
     
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    A bunch of grown ups in a forum debating whether is earth is flat.

    :wall: :wall::truce:
     
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    If the earth is flat them answer this simple question without any of the typical deflection bull(*)(*)(*)(*) I see you do in all the threads you make. If the earth is flat, why is it daytime in the US but nighttime in China? If the earth is flat shouldn't daytime and nighttime be the same across the earth?
     
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    Get a telescope. You can see them for yourself. It's also pretty easy to see the moons orbiting Jupiter, much like our moon orbits the earth.
     
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    Do you have proof, or just repeating others? Lets see these images.
     
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    You have not debunked anything, your just a bunch of broken records, eventually beliveing what you cant stop repeating ("We debunked you"), when you have done nothing, but answer questions with a question. Nobody has any real images of earth or any planets. The moon sizes in the images is impossible, it doesnt take a genius to figure that out. All you do is wander off topic.
     
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    Thats the whole point, "SCIENCE"....didnt you ever read the Bible?
     

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