Florida could shield whites from ‘discomfort’ of racist past

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't come up with it. It sounds like nonsense to me too. Its why it has no place being taught to our kids.
     
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    Nobody is going to get canceled for teaching math science or art so if you don't want it have a lawsuit or get fired or what not stick with that those three things you know the fundamentals of what you should be f****** teaching no one's interested in your bias f****** hot takes regarding history or the state of society today
     
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    "...from his failed covid policies."

    That has nothing to do with this thread and yet you accuse me of "pushing DeSantis' ginned up conflict..."

    It's pretty bold to just make up a new topic out of whole cloth and then accuse me of pushing the actual thread topic to distract from your thread derail!

    I'll say this, you might not be the smartest but you've got balls.
     
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    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Uh, this can't be the first time you've come across leftist anti-semites on this forum.
     
  5. ToughTalk

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    Just looked up this "J Micheal Butler" And I can tell from his splash page that he's one of those woke ****ers who wants everyone to feel the same white guilt he feels.

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    This jackass likely can't separate his bias hot takes from just talking about the events that happened.

    Let's all throw a pity party for Mr Butler. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, Mike.
     
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  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ive never seen a Leftist refer to white people as "Aryans & Jews".
     
  7. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    How clueless can you get? CRT is a sophisticated, albeit wrong argument about race. The bingo game is plain dumb.
     
  8. ToughTalk

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    CRT's core philosophy is to look at things in the case of the course you are puking into this thread - laws through the lens of race. As I have posted when you google the definition of CRT.

    The bullshit course you are trying to site and then pass off as the be all end all of CRT doesn't encompass the THEORY.

    CRT is a THEORY. A practice as to how to think. To look at something. In the case of this bingo game...privilege, while creating both oppressor's and victims.

    The bingo card does that. As it clearly isn't even acknowledging more obvious real world inherent privileges like beauty and instead focuses on race and identity. White. Straight. Male. being 3 of the ****ing slots on that bingo card. Tall should be on there but it isn't. Beauty should be on there. But it isn't. Athletic should be on there...but it isn't. Probably because a black person can be all three of those things at once.

    So clearly it has an agenda. A focus of what attributes it wants to focus in on. Race being the main one.

    So it is ABSOLUTLEY looking at privilege within our society through the lens of race which creates a victim (those not white having no privilege/power) and oppressor (those who are white who have all the privilege/power).

    That's the last time I'm breaking it down. You can declare "it's not CRT" all you want. But you are spewing bullshit.
     
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    CRT thinking is racist thinking. The sooner more on the left realize we shouldn't judge people by their race the better.
     
  10. LangleyMan

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    He doesn't know any more about the stupid law than you do.

    https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/148/BillText/Filed/PDF

    You have to be
    He'll be around after DeSantis...

    Covid death rate Florida - 2,960 per million
    Covid death rate BC - 480 per million

    6.17 times higher in Florida than in British Columbia.

    Florida deaths would be about 10,303 instead of 63,569 if Florida had just done as well as BC.

    ... is long gone and not missed, especially by the 53,266 extra dead Floridians.

    See Governor Demagogue in action (it's only one minute)...



    I hear some teachers' unions are going to sue the state of Florida for textbooks and learning materials that violate the law.
     
  11. ToughTalk

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    Let's come at this from another angle since you are just not getting it.

    Do you approve of the idea of that bingo game where instead of actually teaching about inherited privilege that our society covets, things like being athletic. being tall. being attractive. instead focuses in on being white or black? Do you think that is a good idea? And do you think that it MIGHT be possible that some people might find that insulting or possibly learning to despise those with perceived privilege?
     
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    Total fabrication. Or you can post a link showing your work which you never do.
     
  13. LangleyMan

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    You're upset.

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    You just can't get it through your head that teachers aren't teaching CRT. Not only that, but there is no agreed CRT definition.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory

    https://www.edweek.org/leadership/what-is-critical-race-theory-and-why-is-it-under-attack/2021/05

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/critical-race-theory
    You're making stuff up. I promoted no course.
    Teachers should read your type off. The curriculum doesn't include concepts specific to critical race theory. I say that because many CRT ideas are shared by most of us.

    The Marxist ideas of some CRT proponents (real Marxists, not your trash talk about liberals) will never be widely accepted because they don't make economic sense.
    Spend more money for teacher salaries, get better teachers, and then you won't have really stupid learning materials created by barely competent teachers. There's nothing wrong at all with students looking at "privilege." What might it be? Do anyone have it? What does it mean if someone does have it? Is it allegedly based on race? gender? family wealth and income?

    The Bingo card suggests it does it and what it is. There's no need for the editorial about what to think. Students should work through ideas about privilege as part of their learning.
    This stupid game should end. You accuse teachers of preaching critical race ideology to students. Then you say you're making a law against what teachers are not teaching.

    Your law is actually about attacking teachers. You hope they fight back because you think you can score political points.
    A thesis we can examine.
    You quite obviously have no idea what's going on in school classrooms.
     
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    You did.
    Too bad. You might be able to learn something.

    Covid death rate Florida - 2,960 per million. Covid death rate BC - 480 per million. 6.17 times higher in Florida than in British Columbia. Florida deaths would be about 10,303 instead of 63,569 if Florida had just done as well as BC.​

    Demagoguing for political gain is.
    Born and raised in Southern California. You don't speak for me and I know you don't speak for most Americans.

    You're driving talented people out of the profession with low pay and abuse. You mark yourself as part of the problem.

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    You're just taking up data space with nothing but bias opinion.
     
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    I'm smarter, better educated and likely more accomplished. :)
     
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    Playing to your extreme rightwing fellow travelers?
     
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    As I've said, the bingo game is stupid and judgmental.
    Get this: there's absolutely nothing wrong with asking questions about race and the possible impact of discrimination, past and present. We discuss the impact of looks, intelligence, special skills and talents.
    I think examining the circumstances each racial group faces is relevant and what students want.
     
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    So are you saying that white people SHOULD feel discomfort about the racist past?
     
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    I don't see how it's nonsense to teach children how Jim Crow laws benefitted Aryans and Jews till the 1960's, and mention that the entire generation of Donald and Biden benefitted from that personally. We call all see their kids have nice jobs because of the position of their parents. They aint self made. Their social economical position today is directly related to their parents success build on the foundations of Jim Crow laws.
     
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    If that was all CRT taught, you might have a point (I say 'might' because there's still plenty of whites who clearly havn't benefitted from that and there's clearly many blacks who benefitted in the same way you describe despite it). The real problems with CRT is how it paints all whites into the 'causing racism' corner and the illogical manner it does it by saying they cause racism by not being racist (albeit using much more 'sophisticted' language, but thats what it boils down to). Its culty mind-fuggery with a very thin pseudo-sociology veneir.
     
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    There you go

    Uh no. CRT is clear that on average the norms and values are from the Jim Crow era are passed down, and hence we end up with subtle dynamics instead of a flat out explicit racism.... and that this is benefitting white people. But it doesn't say that white people are as a whole collectively guilty of it at all. That's a white nationalist lie.
     
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    But it says that white people are inherently racist.
     
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    What's the connection between economics and Jim Crow laws?
     
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    CRT is exactly what I just explained to you. It's no longer just the course at law school you want to pass off or shrug off away. It's not been expanded. Gonna have to deal with that reality. It's a core THEORY as to how to look at things/outcomes through the lens of race. That's what it is now. And the bingo card is absolutely downstream of it.

    Spend more money on teachers? Not needed. Though I don't mind putting money into teachers, you shouldn't have to pay more money if they are given better direction. That being said this bingo card **** feels a bit too wide spread throughout the country to be a "poor teacher, teach bad" theory.

    This is being pushed from the top down. I've watched too many parent/teacher conferences where the teachers just shrug off groups of upset parents who threaten to ban together to fire/replace teachers. I don't think these kinds of aggressive meetings were that common 10 years ago.
     

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