Florida proposes solution to supply chain crunch

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  1. DennisTate

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    This sounds logical......
    Florida ports do sound like they are well prepared to handle what ports in Los Angeles and Long Beach cannot at this time under these circumstances deal with.

    This topic is of interest to me because about sixty miles from where I live now, is another proposed trade gateway that has not yet been fully developed.




    https://news.yahoo.com/florida-proposes-solution-supply-chain-122255490.html


    Florida proposes solution to supply chain crunch

    Is it just my imagination or is it challenging to do a search for this topic on Google????? I just did a search for the following and I am getting the impression that maybe people at Google don't want this known for some reason????

    "Florida proposes solution to supply chain crunch youtube.com"


    Now with a reworded search I found....

    DeSantis Offers the Solution to Supply-Chain Issues Newsom Has Exacerbated

    https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/202...y-chain-issues-newsom-has-exacerbated-n454314

     
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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I have to say I really don't see the problem here. You bring the contained in, you put it on a truck or rail car and it's off to WalMart or Kohl's. Cheap underwear for everybody. Are all the computers routing this stuff broken down or what?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    And WT Flying Flivver is the matter with De Santis now? Has he decided that killing us all with an agonizing disease that has a vaccine readily available isn't enough misrule for a Republican that he has to ruin our economy as well? Has he forgotten the little matter of SIX THOUSAND MILES, and a toll of just under a HALF MILLION DOLLARS to go through the Panama Canal? Jesus Christ in a wheelchair man, these details are a BITCH, aren't they?
     
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    Well, you sure make it sound easy, but unless you are acquainted with import/export, the process is a wee bit more complicated then that.

    Paperwork, inspections, the crew to off load the containers, paperwork, designating the space for off-load, paperwork, verifying shipper and contents, paperwork, locating the designated carrier, paperwork, verifying destination, paperwork, loading the container on the designated carrier's truck, verifying that all customs, duties and port fees are paid, paperwork, quick inspection to verify the container is secured (by the driver) and off it goes.

    It's been a decade or two since I've dealt with imports, but the total process for just one container can quite literally take days, and that's after the 2-5 days it takes for customs clearance.
     
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    Yes, Florida has ports too. Not sure how its such a brilliant idea to use them to unload ships, when that is what they were built for in the first place.

    If they were not unloading ships until now, then the question is WHY.
     
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    Look, I know it ain't easy but isn't that all automated nowadays? I mean they've been doing this for years and now suddenly they can't figure what is going on?
     
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    So why was it a good idea until you realized it was De Santis’s idea?
     
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    It's a good idea, but the practical aspects will prevail.

    Ships are waiting off shore off Savanna's port, Jacksonville's port, Port Canaveral. Not sure of the situation at Port Everglades and Tampa, but the international complications are significant.
     
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    I could be wrong... .I often am......
    but it would seem to me that a toll of half a million dollars would be a rather paltry sum of money for a container vessel with perhaps tens of millions of dollars worth of merchandise.... .not to mention the value of the container vessel itself that is depreciating as it waits and waits and waits and waits off the coast of California?????????

    And speaking of Covid 19.... I did drop off an e-mail to Nova Scotia's Premier, Minister of Health as well as our own M. L. A., (Member of the Legislative Assembly) to get them to begin to look at this pandemic in a somewhat different light. ....


    Here in Nova Scotia is a proposal that is somewhat like....
    https://www.maritime.dot.gov/about-us/gateway-offices/north-atlantic-gateway-office-new-york

    North Atlantic Gateway Office (New York)
     
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    Where was I saying it's a good idea? It's seems downright idiotic to me. "My port is overloaded, so we have to send your quarter million tons over to the other side of the continent?. Great Deities man, "We're sorry people, LAX is socked in so we're diverting you to NEW YORK CITY?" Jeebus, there's a Republican idea for you alright.
     
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    I could be wrong....
    I often am.....
    but I have the impression that some influential people want a supply chain crisis and a spike in prices for less than entirely ethical reasons!?

    I have written that there are two necessary factors to create a time of hyper inflation.

    1. print a whole lot of extra money
    2. DECREASE PRODUCTIVITY.......

    ... but now I know that there is actually a third way to create a lot of inflation...... if you happen to be one of those people who want inflation............

    3. ARTIFICIALLY CREATE A SUPPLY CHAIN CRISIS and what better tool to do that with that government bureaucracy!



    Can Israel pull the entire world economy out of a possible Bear Market, another 1929?


    This may sound strange to you but I personally am extremely optimistic as to how all of this will work out over these next two years!









     
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    I have to admit I hadn't given the matter of depreciation while waiting lots of thought, what with the extra time that would be involved with sending the ship around North America, And maybe something like that North Atlantic Gateway Office but for the whole continent might be of use.

    Still and all I am reminded of the idea that the whole business of shipping is to get things from A to B and sending them to C instead defeats the whole purpose IMO.
     
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    Computers still require input, and it's not 'automated'. When you have a shortage of people, a shortage of trucks and the people to drive them, it's not as easy as it sounds.

    I would love to see the ports cleared up, but it's going to take a while to get close to caught up.
     
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    One of the problems apparently is that California came up with laws against owner / operators of trucks.......
    as well as a law to ban certain types of trucks by 2035.......
    in favour of electric powered trucks.... so........

    there is little incentive for any trucker going to pick up cargo from Los Angeles to buy a new truck......
    if they will soon be obsolete and even outlawed anyway........

    The people who come up with these seemingly stupid laws......
    may not be stupid at all but may be working on something that will be worth billions and trillions in the not too distant future.....


    At this time, (if I remember correctly), trucks older than 2011 can't even go to California to pick up cargo....
     
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    Of course forcing people to have to buy new goods will do much for the manufacturer, and the kitty for the fines and levies for non-compliance. Then you know more than I on the truck issue. California seems determined to slit their own proverbial throat.

    I have one more family member still there, and when their 2 years until retirement is done, they'll be leaving dust clouds behind....
     
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    Everybody ordering their mayonnaise through Amazon doesn't help with the trucker shortage.
     
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    Google "Port of Los Angeles Shipping Back Up" and learn for yourself.
    One of the problems is that the Port of LA apparently doesn't work 24 hrs a day in shifts like the rest of the world does. In addition to other bits of ****ery.
     
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    Would you say that certain companies whose profits skyrocketed over these past eighteen months......
    might perhaps have had some rather intelligent employees who actually would have predicted that their business model would tend to set their company up nicely to benefit.......
    in a set of circumstances that are economically harmful for the majority of the rest of us?
     
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    Amazon and the like---the big online sellers---rely upon people not wanting to go out on their own and shop in physical stores. Sure they benefited by people either not being able to shop due to restrictions or not willing to shop. Likewise, mortgage companies have been rolling in the dough because the low interest rates trying to jumpstart the economy have made it crazy cheap to borrow. I personally seldom order through Amazon. My work, however, orders pretty much everything online from a site with free shipping which is crazy to me when they for instance send a box of pens in a standard shipping box that is like 24 by 24 by 12. Orders seldom come in a single box. The pens might come from place A, the post it notes from place b, etc. I mean it is great for the customer not to have to send someone to the office supply place, but it is incredibly wasteful IMO on the supplier/transportation side. Whatever we save in time in not having to go to the office store, we more than spend having to deal with all the freaking cardboard boxes though, so I am not even sure it is that great a deal in the end for business customers. Soon enough it won't even be an option. We are down to one local owned office supply company and then whatever you can get at Sam's/Walmart. Our last chain office place went out of business.
     
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    DeSantis isn't killing anyone. Your emotional postings are devoid of facts. (again) DeSantis is not against vaccines anyway... not at all. He just doesn't want to FORCE it on anyone... a very good idea.
     
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    No he just want to ram lots of bs down our throats and scare susceptible people into not getting the vaccine. This establishes his credentials as a true Trumper and possible Presidential candidate if Trump himself (PBUH) should drop out before 2024.
    American politics is getting downright weird.
     
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    Interesting comment. My civilian career was spent in outfits like Lockheed and Boeing. Office supplies weren't even noise level. Most of what we bought were raw materials to make electronics, lasers, weapons, space vehicles, aircraft and such. We couldn't go down to the local Space Station Store and get stuff. So I am a big supporter of buying stuff online. Its soooooo convenient. My wife and I buy almost everything online now from appliances to clothes to tools to cleaning supplies and everything else. Recently we've replaced the normal 2-3 hour grocery store visit with an online order that has everything delivered to our porch the next day. We miss shopping like we miss changing our kids diapers.
     
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    What "BS" are you referiing to? He is in no way scaring anyone into not getting the vaccine. That is just a plain lie. He is giving the people a CHOICE. CHOICE is the exact opposite of "shoving" something down someone's throat. So, all these years later you still suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrom? How sad... I assume you will still be ranting and raving against Trump, without any specific issues, long after your grandchildren have children of their own.
     
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    I am unVaxxed....
    but since the early 1960's I took pretty much all the major vaccines that were going at that time.... (I was born in 1959).



    In early May of 2021 I was signed up to take the Pfizer vaccination on May 26 but I decided to really research this and I soon changed my mind and asked my wife to phone her friend and take my name off the list for that day so that somebody else could take my place.

    To my thinking, in my particular case, I am willing to risk being put on Unpaid Administrative Leave because I DO NOT REALLY BELIEVE Dr. Robert Strang........


    https://novascotia.ca/dhw/publichealth/cpho.asp


    .... but instead I DO BELIEVE IN THE CAUTIONS GIVEN BY ROBERT MALONE M. D.




    Dr. Robert Malone, Inventor of mRNA technology discusses the Spike Protein | Interview


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    We Nova Scotians take pride in being able to have a conversation with people all over the political spectrum so I am hopeful that something quite significant could actually emerge out of my little province on this question.

    I personally, beginning in 1978 have voted Liberal, Progressive Conservative, Conservative Party of Canada, Green, NDP and most recently, People's Party of Canada...... (PPC).



    N.S. premier, health minister fire provincial health authority CEO and board


     
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    When was the last time you ordered space vehicle online? Good for you that enjoy your porch delivery, but if you were spending 3 hours in the grocery store before, you were doing it wrong.
     
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