For a person to believe in any god, without proof of his goodness, would not be the best thinking or

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  1. Greatest I am

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    For a person to believe in any god, without proof of his goodness, would not be the best thinking or choice.

    It would kill the ability to choose another who might be better.

    Goodness is the foundation of godliness. Yahweh is demonstrably evil; yet has a large following who never dares discuss morals and resorts to inquisition and jihad type of insults to their brighter, non-supernatural god believing brethren.

    If being a decent citizen was based on the desires of destroying the majority who are not like them, real-life would be hell; as many would not be able to stop the antics of the young who kill. The young know that we love war and too many oblige, even as the numbers are better than ever.

    Yet we think those who pray for Armageddon are good decent people.

    I say to hell with all who want to end my life just for thinking in a more moral way than my poor delusional brethren.

    I say that because, as an idol worshiper, you have given up your free will.

    You have damned yourself to hell, by doing such a harm to your mind, --- and running away from facing the morals that have you using inquisition and jihad tactics for mind control.

    Bishop Spong foretold that the savior belief, because of all it's immoral tenets would be what kills Christianity as a whole.

    He was wrong. It will kill all religions that respect that and that is most of them, be they have a supernatural god or not.

    I invite Jesus believers to argue.

    If there is goodness in you or your genocidal god, then come and explain why he always kills, when Jesus, alias Yahweh of The Terrible Trinity shame, come and learn the evil you adore and why your religion had to grow with murder, as your ancients as well as yourself, if you could, were to morally corrupt to convert with love.

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    DL
     
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    We get it. You have no free will because you only believe in one thing, you are god. And, you won't quit until everyone thinks and believes the way you do.
     
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    Since you believe in God, why don't you think he's talking to your on the internet? After all, you believe in fairy tales thousands of years old without any proof whatsoever and now you are personally experiencing your own miracle but deny it.
     
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    Where do you get these ideas from?

    It seems to me there is nothing fundamental about the concept gods that rely on goodness. I don't think Zeus or Ares were considered good in any categorical sense, and while there were perhaps good reasons not to believe in them, their lack of goodness is hardly the problem.

    There may be very specific definitions for which it would be true, but the statement specifically says "any" god.
     
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    The other way is a stupid way. I freely think this.

    Do you not care that people think stupidly and use those thought to discriminate against gays and women without a just cause?

    Why don't you care about your fellow man?

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    Is your not seeking a good god, why you have decided to honor a genocidal satanic god?

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    Christians tell me that god is good.

    Are they lying?

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    If you hear something long enough you start to believe it. Believing there is a god is a lot like believing the Dems stole the election. :)
     
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    Trolling Christian again....just walk away.
     
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    For evil to grow and all that.

    Walk away, Satan lover, and let the Christians who honor evil, --- just keep doing it.

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    Oops, I meant "trolling Christians again", plural. But you seem to troll everyone.
     
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    I don't believe that I have. Either way, it is not an answer to my objection.

    Don't know, could be. Maybe they're merely mistaken. Either way it seems to be completely missing my point.

    You say that to believe in any god, without proof of his goodness, would not be the best thinking or choice. I say believing in any god is justified with proof of their existence. Whether they're good seems to be beside the point.
     
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    Not in terms of worthiness to led us.

    With proof, of course, but then that same proof of concept proves the many gods over gods notions.

    No proof has yet been offered that takes nature off the creator throne.

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    Everyone who believes in a god has no proof of its existence. To believe in a god requires only a leap of faith and no proof required. It seems whether the god is good or flawed is beside the point according to the Old Testament.
     
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    I don't deny Christ. God lives and Jesus is the Christ. The Son of the Father (living God). The only fairy tales are the ones your side is teaching children like there are no genders. That, there is no sin nor evil. That is the big fairy tale.
     
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    It's your opinion that there are no just causes to condemn homosexual behavior. Note that I said homosexual behavior, not the person. The cause is just because the law of heaven decrees that we shall not lie down with someone of the same sex as we would do with the opposite sex (sexual intercourse). This is rational and the best for all societies to keep society orderly and not in constant chaos and anarchy.
     
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    Kinda like government.
     
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    Give his E Mail address, or be seen as lying.

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    We have basically denounced fascist political regimes.

    We have yet to collectively denounce the fascist religions, like Christianity and Islam.

    If they were not dying out from modernization, we would likely end in outlawing them for the genocidal god following bunch of immoral dimwits that they are.

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    Your homophobia aside, only a fool would think that the laws in heaven, where none can die, is the same as where people can die.

    Tell us, pathetic homophobe, why you put sex above love when in heaven, love is always put above sex.

    Your own words would have you sent to hell.

    How dare you criticize god creating gays!

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    Yet the core message if the O.T. and Jewish holy books, is to live by the Golden Rule.

    One does not impress an evil god by promoting good in his name.

    God must be good, even if capable of evil.

    God is to be feared, to the foolish.

    It is his goodness that prevents his wiping us all out.

    I am a patient god etc,.

    You know the B.S. when men put wordsw in gods mouth. All lies.

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    Jesus Christ, Son of the Father...Lord of Lord. King of Kings...
     
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    The law of Heaven and Earth decree that God will not be mocked for in the resurrection, male and female will be the order of the Celestial Kingdom. Yep, people will die is a guarantee even for the Son of God. It's for our benefit so that we can be resurrected into glory and for the glory of the Father.
    I have no fear of homosexuals. They are my friends. Their acts are not. I love the sinner but hate the sin. Why you would put sex above love is beyond me.
    Now, it's the fool that believes all homosexuals sin. They do not. There are many who go above their carnal bodies and keep the commandments of God. The rest attempt to debunk God to hide their sins. And, they get others to help them who are foolish in their denial of God. God did not create sin. Sin has always been around. Satan has not. Sin is as natural as righteousness. It's the sinner who sins. And, cannot blame the Devil or God. It's their God-given free moral agency to choose to do evil. Just as it is with heterosexuals who have sex before marriage and also do vile carnal things. It is you that is homophobic.
     
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    You forget his best.

    The Greatest Genocidal prick any Christian ever shoved his head up it's ass for.

    Infanticidal, but loveable to boot, to immoral Christians.

    Say hi to St. Hitler in your hot heaven for me.

    You will wish a gay guy was there to p on you, for daring to question god's creating him.

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    The rant of a fool who believes in talking serpents.

    Try logos.

    Your mythos and lies are boring as they do not show how your mind became such an immoral pile of garbage.

    As your serpent friends.

    Regards
    DL
     

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