For a person to believe in any god, without proof of his goodness, would not be the best thinking or

So, the debate is "Killing is always evil." I would reject this. Killing is unavoidable. Accidents happen on the road all the time and many times it's not because of evil intentions. Then, there are times when killing is justified to protect the innocent from tyrants like Hitler, Staling, Mao and others. It's certainly not a Jew or Christians first choice to end conflict. But, I would not call the U.S. evil because we went and stopped Hitler and Japan. Do you believe this is a black and white issue? I don't. When the outcomes of others actions and behaviors threaten peace, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and the opportunity to exercise free moral agency, action has to be taken which includes death to those who commit evil. Do you deny this?
As far as your opinion on what is genocide and what is freeing humanity to exercise free moral agency is your opinion and not factual. A orderly society with laws and norms is necessary. Anarchy leads to evil and more destruction and loss of free moral agency and free will. So, the idea of "if it feels good, do it" only supports anarchy which leads to a society's destruction.

 

If you know a supernatural god, tell us how your direct contact went.

Otherwise, you are stupid to believe in a supernatural god without direct evidence.

Especially when the god in question is a genocidal and evil prick.

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DL

 

I do not adore whatever fiction you have in mind.

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DL

 

Edification?

If just showing you that Yahweh is a genocidal prick does not edify you and your genocidal god loving ilk, that just shows how your god has corrupted your thinking.

Say Heil to your new and improved Hitler for me.

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DL

 

If a God were truly a God you would have no control over anything about him. He would be God....period. But this very thing makes me wonder if instead of a God there is way to be. Or, a path to follow. Worshipping a God because he fits your idea of a God is just creating a God.

 

Hmmmmm.....I don't believe I have seen him talk to a gay member here and tell them about "walking like they have something up their ass".......but I DO remember someone who has, he has the nerve to call other the 'homophobe'...

 

Nice deflection.

You speak of plain old killing, when your god can cure just as easily as kill, yet always seems to choose to kill.

Stop comparing humans who cannot cure as easily as kill.

It looks like you are trying to be the usual Christian hypocrite and deflector.

As to "action has to be taken which includes death to those who commit evil. Do you deny this?"

What is it about --- Though shalt not kill, --- that alludes you and has you choosing to break that commandment?

What of your prick of a god who can cure, yet always kills.

Quite the G D doctor.

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DL

 

Get one and I will grant your wish.

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DL

 

Is this more of your superior "morality" you profess to argue from?

Your anti gay bigotry can't remain hidden for long.

 

Indeed. All our Gods are human inventions.

I have invented a good God as compared to the genocidal prick.

He is of the Chrestian creed whose books Christianity plagiarized.

All Gnostic Christians have a moral god as compared to Christians, and that is why we are said to be the only good Christians.

I am sure you have seen how Christians run from moral discussions.

All they ever had, once corrupted by literal belief, was their inquisitions.

Tell us, would a good man choose a genocidal god who kills when he could just as easily cure?

Why do you think evil Christians choose a genocidal god?

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DL

 

If all you are going to do, after I have fought homophobia for years here, is try to have me look like you homophobes, go ahead and talk yo yourself.

I have no time to deny your lies. Now take that dick out of your mouth and taske your last shot, which I will ignore.

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DL

 

Most people dont consider EXTREME militant BIGOTRY and PREJUDICE good MORALS bestowed upon man from some god, those are the morals of extreme PRICKS, without a doubt created by a man, most likely candidate a homosexual man with a 10 ton chip on his shoulder.

 

Most people are stupid, as your poor identification of terms shows.

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DL

 

I doubt anyone can top matching your level of sophistication and intelligence militantly demanding God is a homophobic genocidal PRICK, Id bet your gnostic churches are over flowing with converts!

 

I don't know why people choose a God to worship unless they are motivated by fear.

 

most americans today chooses one of the secular gods, money, to worship today, its why we are now guvernated by a kleptocracy

 

Apparently, you do not accept logical reasoning. It is you that is being the hypocrite and deflector because you are now using our God's commandment to justify your inept sad interpretation of God. Or, in other words, circular reasoning.
Actions do have to to include death to evil persons who commit genocide or even one-on-one killing. That's why we have police. To stop killers and sometimes they have to take lethal actions.
You seem to be unable to hold two concepts and the big picture in your mind at one time. Physical life to God is not as important as Spiritual life. Physical life is temporary while spiritual life is eternal. The foundation of eternal life is "free moral agency." The right to choose good or evil. When either one is suppressed to where one cannot exist, we lose moral agency and free will. They do need to be controlled through laws, rules, commandments and so on. Without the two, we cannot learn nor be judged on our worthiness for the kind of life eternal we end up in; Celestial, Terrestrial or Telestial or Perdition. The big picture is that this stage of the earth will end. When it does, we will be judged at that time based upon our choices and obedience to God who is the judge, not you.
So no, God can't just easily cure as you want to without denying us our moral agency and free will. If he did, you would be complaining about not having the right to do evil. How would he solve the wickedness anyways? Would he put up energy shields between each tribe around the world? He would segregate people? Based on what? Race? Religion? National origin? Looks (ugly vs. pretty)? Sexes? What? What is an easy way for you if you were God?
Come on Doctor. Give us your prescriptions?

 

As genuine as a 3 $ bill. Thinks he's fooling any one....

 

The moral ones, yes.

The ones who intelligently and justly condemn all genocidal pricks, god or not.

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DL

 

Bingo.

A fear born of insecurity and putting a prick above ones self out of insecurity and fear of being thrown out of his immoral tribe.

I guess in their fellowship terms, better to follow a prick than try to find a good god elsewhere.

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DL

 

You show your immoral double standard, where you forgive your god for genocide while condemning us for the same infraction.

Pure hypocrisy that.

Can they cure as well as kill the way your god can?

Thanks for comparing and equating the power of a god with humans.

More hypocrisy on your part.

No point in my wasting time on one with such low morals.

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DL

 

Your bible says we do not have a free will.

Think of Pharaoh's mind being hardened. No free will there.

This link corrects you with your bible. You must have forgotten those passages.

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Are non-believers doomed by Divine Design?

Scriptures say that God decides if a person will be a believer or non-believer. Those scriptures are shown in this link.



Those quotes seems to really screw up the free will notion that Christians say God gives us.

The free will that God offers is kind of a joke anyway given the number of people whose free will to live is ignored in the billions of adults, children and babies that God is shown to torture and murder in scriptures.

If the bible and Yahweh are to be believed, and as a non-believer, I, of course, cannot believe it, thanks to God, by God’s design and will against me, then why did God deny me belief or faith?

Even more important to believers, might be to answer the question of; did God make you a believer in things that you can only hope exists and can never confirm?

Are you happy with God ignoring or negating your free will to think as you please?

I have assumed that God’s work of creating both believers and non-believers is working. If that is so, and you believers must think it so, just as I as a non-believer cannot think it is working, --- and Jesus said that those with faith could do all he did and more, --- then there is not even one believer or person of faith that has ever existed.

Either the bible and Christianity is all a lie, or there must be some who can do what Jesus did.

What is your choice of those two options?

Is the bible and Christianity a lie, or is God just not creating any people with faith, --- which would make all Christians who say they have faith, --- liars.

I mean no insult here but someone is definitely lying, if we read what is written and look at reality and listen to Christians.

What do you think is the truth?

Is it just for God to create people doomed to hell even if they wanted to believe?

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DL