For the vaccinated, Covid is like.... guess what... like the Flu!

Remember when Trump loyalists went about happily comparing Covid to the Flu? "Oh... it's nothing to worry about." "Very few people die" and the ever popular "More people die from the Flu than from Covid".

Well... the mythical "it's like the Flu", is now a reality (pretty much). But only for the vaccinated.

Let's do the numbers. During the Flu season 2019, there were a bit over 34,157 deaths from Influenza.

That's 2,846 deaths per month (average)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1127698/influenza-us-deaths-by-age-group/

How does that compare to Covid this year?

To August 16, there had been a little over 1,829 breakthrough deaths. Let's assume (for the sake of fairness) that those deaths happened in the first 8 months. That means 229 deaths per month. But, since only half the population has been vaccinated, and to compare apples to apples, we would need to use only HALF of the Flu deaths per month. So if we had half the population (to compare to half the population vaccinated today) that means 1423 deaths per month.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

So

Flu (2018-2019): 1,423 deaths per month (normalized to half the population)
Covid (2020-2021): 229 deaths per month (among the vaccinated, i.e. half the population)

You were 6 times more likely to die from the Flu in 2019, then a vaccinated person has of dying from Covid today. How worried were you about dying from the Flu in 2019?

I know these are not exact numbers. But they do give us a good idea. Just for the sake of comparing the two.

 

It's about time that one of you lefties admitted that the vaccines don't do crap regarding the spread of the Delta variant and that if you are exposed to Covid, you WILL get sick, just not sick enough for most people to need hospitalization or die from it because it will be more like the flu. Now that you seem to acknowledge the truth you should convince your lefty friends the error of their ways, particularly with respect to vaccine passports because they are of no use when the vaccinated spread the virus just as much as the unvaccinated do.

 

Chill out on the partisan blame game. Let that stress go, man. You'll live longer.

 

And they die. So much for the hype around the vaccines, or that once vaccinated, they couldn't be infected (well, the 2% that the vaccines wasn't effective for, etc..... So much effort for what literally isn't any improvement, and like other "having the flu" those kill lots of folks too. So, what was the point of all of this?

Here's the thing. For the folks, like me, who got the vaccinations, those who vaccinated us didn't tell us that you could still get COVID, that is why we were defrauded and turns out, that fraud is pretty remarkable in the annuls of medical fraud. Yup, you can still get COVID. Yup, you can, just like everyone else, experience the flu like symptoms. And yup, you can still die from it. So tell us sports fans, was any of this worth it? Trillions of dollars wasted, lives devastated by government decree, society broken,? For what?

 

The most recent study of the average mask or face covering suggests that they are less than 10% effective. 90% NOT EFFECTIVE in the slightest in the suppression of the spread. Science actually is not the democratic party's friend this year. And getting the jab isn't stopping either the spread, or the death rate, is it?

 

That might be that new math people have been talking about.

 

Hmm.. Show the science then. Show that when exposed the vaccine produces some prophylactic benefit. Any study will do. And while you're at it, explain why vaccinated folks are still able to spread, given how effective you claim the vaccination to be by "reducing our chances" etc. I'm sure you're well versed in the medical literature that supports your claim.

 

Why? The CDC et al and the Biden pulpit demand we wear them still. If they aren't effective, is this just their way of showing their support to the american version of the Burka?

 

you may see that as the vaccine failing, most see it as a success - most prefer not to go to the hospital or die

 

exactly, even if all they did is reduce fear and panic, that would be something

I have worn a seatbelt for decades and never once needed it

and never have I got violent when someone asked me to buckle up

 

It's about time that one of you lefties admitted that the vaccines don't do crap regarding the spread of the Delta variant and that if you are exposed to Covid, you WILL get sick, just not sick enough for most people to need hospitalization or die from it because it will be more like the flu. Now that you seem to acknowledge the truth you should convince your lefty friends the error of their ways, particularly with respect to vaccine passports because they are of no use when the vaccinated spread the virus just as much as the unvaccinated do

Funny how you lefties are all fine with being partisan until it is thrown right back in your face. Then, all of a sudden you don't think there should be partisanship anymore. Trump has been out of office for 7 months now and the election was almost a year ago but that doesn't stop YOU from making partisan anti-Trump threads. If you don't think we should be partisan then maybe YOU could set an example, which you don't.

 

Masks DON'T reduce the spread. That is the fallacy. They only reduce the spread compared to if no one was wearing masks. BUT masks DON'T reduce the spread as evidenced by recent studies which show the majority of masks are only about 12% effective. Mask mandates lead to increased spread because it makes people think they are invincible while wearing masks that are only 12% effective, spreading the virus everywhere.

 

What ever happened to all those posts and posters that said covid would magically disappear after the election? I has been 3/4 year since the election, why is it still all over the media?

 

Not to worry, the left do their best at only showing the science that they agree with while sweeping under the rug the science which disagrees with them.

 

Then why can't the left be honest about this? Why can't they admit that the vaccines don't do **** at stopping the spread of Delta? Why can't they admit that the vaccines don't do **** at stopping you from getting sick? Why can't the left admit that vaccine passports are not needed because the vaccinated spread Delta just as much as the unvaccinated do?

 

Still not a leftie, IT.
It'll sink in eventually. I have hope for you.

Post anything where I blasted anybody with a partisan argument. Hint: I haven't.

 

In a way you are wrong. If the left were honest in that masks don't work well at all, less people would go out because they would realize that their masks are only 10% effective, which would lead to decreased cases rather than everyone going out thinking that their masks are highly effective. The only thing that masks do is give us better results than if everyone were unmasked but, as I said, the fact that they believe their masks are more effective than they actually are, leads many more to go out than would be if people knew masks didn't work with a crap, which spread the virus.

 

Its like that for most of the unvaccinated too. Those that get any symptoms at all anyway.

 

It's just more of the "hygiene theater" that the left admitted to after the fact.

 

Biden and the left were depending on the Trump vaccine to irradicate Covid. But, the vaccines only worked against the earlier variants, not Delta. And, Biden had no other plan but the Trump plan. He had confidence that the Trump vaccine would get rid of the virus and has now been caught with his pants down and no backup plan. Even now, his only plan is more vaccinations, which even the most highly vaccinated countries in the world are now seeing surges. That is the Biden plan.