Forced sterilizations of Uighurs in Chinese concentration camps

The U.S. government did, in fact, do something like that. Up until the 1970's the U.S.government was secretly infecting negroes, black americans, african americans with syphilis and simply watching them slowly die administering no medicine claiming they must have contracted "bad blood".

 

I don't know about that, but I know there was a fear of the black birth rate when I was young, and I'm positive it was because of this mentality that the Supreme Court legalized abortion. White people could afford to leave the country, but blacks couldn't.

Another form of limiting the black population as well as the other 'untermenchen' was the Vietnam war. Only boys who could not afford college, or didn't have the grades were drafted. If you were kicked out of school, then you were in Vietnam.

 

As far as the Uighurs go, many of them fought with ISIS in Syria, so of course China is wary of those coming back. I wish we would stop supporting terrorists, something we do readily in Syria to keep the war going on, as well as Russian criminals and tax evaders simply because they hate Russia. A criminal is a criminal is a criminal.

America the beautiful where have you gone?

We've gone to sing a wondrous song,
to tell the world that right was wrong,
and what you thought was naught before
was just a lie that you had bought -

from us! - Jeannette​

 

God. I hate how ******n ignorant, many Americans have become and their disgusting lack of the world around them. No, your politicians trying to restrict abortions, DOES NOT fall into the category of HAVING YOUR ENTIRE ETHNIC GROUP TARGETED FOR SYSTEMATIC GENETIC ANNIHILATION THROUGH GOVERNMENT ENFORCED STERILIZATION. Got that? If Donald Trump ordered that all white American girls and women could no longer get abortions, and also demanded that all the Black and Latino girls and women in the US got forcibly sterilized, the white American female population would also not be in "excatly the same" situation.

Have some ******n sense of perspective. Ethnic cleansing and not being allowed to use birth control are not the same thing. I support freedom of choice, but saying your anti-abortion politicians in the US are "EXCATLY" like what they're doing in CHINA.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
There are Americans who wish to force women to gestate....both are equally bad and against human rights..






OH BS!

I pointed out that in America some AMERICANS are VERY HAPPY to treat women like cattle...EXACTLY LIKE THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT ...it is an EXACT comparison..

Depriving people of their right to bodily autonomy is wrong in ANY country.

Banning abortion, as some AMERICANS, want to do is destroying women's rights.

NO, it isn't just ""individual , private citizens"", it is POLITICIANS, lawmakers who fight to restrict abortion and have passed LAWS to do just that.

I never said they were....you certainly seem confused....hence the anger ?


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Denying the basic human right of bodily autonomy is the same no matter what people you are trying to do it to.

It doesn't vary from country to country.

 

Yep. My mother was training to be a nurse in the early 70's. She was given instructions on how to assist with forced sterilizations of the "feebleminded". Never got to try it in practise, fortunately, but there were still older doctors in clinics all over Denmark up untill the 80's and 90's who had participated in forced sterilizations. I don't know if forced sterilizations was used on Greenlandic women, but forced adoption - without any other cause than needing to do a social experiment - was aimed at "Danifying" Greenlandic children, and turning them into a future Greenlandic elite. Experiment failed miserably, of course. Children naturally develop traumas from being ripped away from their parents and forced not to talk like their parents did anymore.

I am angry at the tactic, because it's a tactic that we know from history can work. The "only" thing that prevented the ethnic cleansing of the Greenlandic inuit culture, was that the notion of them having, and being meant to have, the same cultural rights in their own land, as Danes had in theirs. In countries without a respect for those kinds of rights, it's going to be an uphill battle to persuade people to respect their national minorities. I'm a passionate believer in the rights of national minorities, doesn't matter if it's Greenlanders in the kingdom of Denmark, or if it's Basque, Kurds or Uighurs.

 

I understand.

We cleaned up with the civil rights act . If black Americans can't make it today with the help they have received and special education treatment its on them.

But you can't raise yourself up by playing the victim..And finding excuses for your shortcoming..Like all people who came here it took hard work and playing by the rules.. The Irish were hated and discriminated against..But they didn't whine..
Poor pitiful me but fought like hell to raise themselves out of potato eating poverty..

 

I agree in classical Marxist thought capitalism is anathema. So the controlled authoritarian ccp uses tactics seen in what has existed as communism in Russia and China. Except for the economy. They use a form of capitalism because the economics of Marx has utterly failed .

Capitalism as China uses it has raised 500 million out of poverty leaving one billion in poverty. These poor, man our factories and theirs.. To get that poor cheap labor for our MNCs requires that 25 percent of each MNC factory is owned by the CCP.. And our manufacturing tech is given to the CCP so they can open their own factory a block away. All part of the deal to get cents on the dollar labor cost to max out wealth of our corporations and our elites that own them.

And the govt has communist based organization and very authoritarian and controlled.

China is the most racist nation on earth..

 

"Some Americans" is a lot different than being the official policy of a government. There is no comparison between China and the USA.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
There are Americans who wish to force women to gestate....both are equally bad and against human rights..


I pointed out that in America some AMERICANS are VERY HAPPY to treat women like cattle...EXACTLY LIKE THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT ...it is an EXACT comparison..

Depriving people of their right to bodily autonomy is wrong in ANY country.

Banning abortion, as some AMERICANS, want to do is destroying women's rights.

NO, it isn't just ""individual , private citizens"", it is POLITICIANS, lawmakers who fight to restrict abortion and have passed LAWS to do just that.




Denying the basic human right of bodily autonomy is the same no matter what people you are trying to do it to.

It doesn't vary from country to country.

"Some Americans" want banning abortion/ loss of rights for women, to BE government policy.

Did you want to wait until they get it banned?

Did you not want to be alert to warning signs?

 

You are missing my point. This is happening NOW. It’s not some theoretical “might happen”. I believe in women’s rights too, and these women have none.

 

lol you obvious never been there, the poverty in china is about 2-3% according of poverty by world bank, if you want know poverty check other developing nation such as phillippine/india etc the sole reason chinese didn't revolt against ccp is because the economy benefit most ppl.

as for racist nation, no, like i said you never been there or even talk to chinese, all your bs is from extreme right wing news.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
There are Americans who wish to force women to gestate....both are equally bad and against human rights..


I pointed out that in America some AMERICANS are VERY HAPPY to treat women like cattle...EXACTLY LIKE THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT ...it is an EXACT comparison..

Depriving people of their right to bodily autonomy is wrong in ANY country.

Banning abortion, as some AMERICANS, want to do is destroying women's rights.

NO, it isn't just ""individual , private citizens"", it is POLITICIANS, lawmakers who fight to restrict abortion and have passed LAWS to do just that.




Denying the basic human right of bodily autonomy is the same no matter what people you are trying to do it to.

It doesn't vary from country to country.







"Some Americans" want banning abortion/ loss of rights for women, to BE government policy.

Did you want to wait until they get it banned?

Did you not want to be alert to warning signs?

The attack on the rights of American women is happening NOW...and has been going on for years with some states passing or trying to pass anti-abortion laws...just because YOU are not aware of it does NOT mean it doesn't exist.


You can ignore :


"Some Americans" want banning abortion/ loss of rights for women, to BE government policy.

Did you want to wait until they get it banned?

Did you not want to be alert to warning signs?"""


But it won't change because you ignore it..

 

I think some of the camps are meant to re-educate Muslims who are working against the Chinese regime.
China is not Europe, they are not suckers

 

Where are they being forced into camps and sterilized in the US? Fringe crazies does not equal national policy.

 

The fortunate ones learn from their mistakes. All the others be damned.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
There are Americans who wish to force women to gestate....both are equally bad and against human rights..


I pointed out that in America some AMERICANS are VERY HAPPY to treat women like cattle...EXACTLY LIKE THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT ...it is an EXACT comparison..

Depriving people of their right to bodily autonomy is wrong in ANY country.

Banning abortion, as some AMERICANS, want to do is destroying women's rights.

NO, it isn't just ""individual , private citizens"", it is POLITICIANS, lawmakers who fight to restrict abortion and have passed LAWS to do just that.




Denying the basic human right of bodily autonomy is the same no matter what people you are trying to do it to.

It doesn't vary from country to country.







"Some Americans" want banning abortion/ loss of rights for women, to BE government policy.

Did you want to wait until they get it banned?

Did you not want to be alert to warning signs?





The attack on the rights of American women is happening NOW...and has been going on for years with some states passing or trying to pass anti-abortion laws...just because YOU are not aware of it does NOT mean it doesn't exist.


You can ignore :


"Some Americans" want banning abortion/ loss of rights for women, to BE government policy.

Did you want to wait until they get it banned?

Did you not want to be alert to warning signs?"""


But it won't change because you ignore it..

Pathetic that you can't address my post . …. and think we should wait until women are forced into camps instead of LEARNING from history and NOT waiting until it's extreme and those in power have the most power...

Is it fear?

And "fringe crazies" ? Yes, some of our politician/lawmakers are crazy but they aren't the "fringe", they MAKE THE LAWS....and HAVE.

It's also pathetic that you appear to not know there have been laws made and proposed restricting women's right to their own body.

Is it because it's "only" women that you don't think it's serious??????

 

Nationalism? It is authoritarianism.

 

What are you talking about? Nobody is waiting. In case you havn't noticed, there is huge opposition against denying women rights over their body. We have the ability to protest and fight these things. They don't have that in China. These women are being sterilized now.

You seem to think I don't care about women's rights, or think women are lesser people. That is not the case at all. What I do think is that you are dismissing what these women in China are going through. It sounds like you are saying "well, some people think women shouldn't have rights in the US, so why should we care what happens in China?".

 

FoxHastings said: ↑


Pathetic that you can't address my post . …. and think we should wait until women are forced into camps instead of LEARNING from history and NOT waiting until it's extreme and those in power have the most power...

Is it fear?

And "fringe crazies" ? Yes, some of our politician/lawmakers are crazy but they aren't the "fringe", they MAKE THE LAWS....and HAVE.

It's also pathetic that you appear to not know there have been laws made and proposed restricting women's right to their own body.

Is it because it's "only" women that you don't think it's serious??????

Uh, YA, that would be you insisting that since things are bad in other countries we shouldn't worry about the "little" things happening here..
YOU

Yes, so we should pay close attention to what is happening in our country...It is STUPID to wait UNTIL the government has the power to do that.

When you have to use your imagination about another's post you must know you are losing the argument.

 

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What a load of crap...the Supreme Court did not make abortion legal, it upheld (all) women's right to bodily autonomy.

OOOHHH, but righties insist it was a Big Conspiracy to kill black people....and pretend they care ...

 

It is also authoritarian. The motive to subject Uighurs to ethnic cleansing is nationalist. The method is.. really more totalitarian than merely authoritarian. If you believe that everyone in China should and must be Han Chinese, no matter if all the other nationalities have lived on what are today's China's border for centuries or millenia, then you are a nationalist.

 

Seems as though your thinking is part of the problem.

 

WTH are you talking about? Being pro-life and trying to save fetuses is not the same as sterilizing people. Are you serious? And when did anybody say we are trying to make women have children? They are free to practice safe sex and avoid pregnancy all they want. Most pro-lifers just want people to practice safe and reasonable sex instead of just aborting their poor decisions. Leave it to modern day progressives to equate intelligent behavior with tyranny.