Former Israeli PM Olmert gets 6 years in prison for corruption

Free at last, free at last - thank God almighty he's free at last...

Former Israeli Prime Minister Olmert Released From Prison
Sunday 2nd July, 2017 - Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert was released from prison early Sunday, days after a parole board granted him early release from his 27-month corruption sentence.

 

So: Which is more important to you, the fact that Israelis are Jews, or the fact that some Jews are not Semites?

 

Maybe someone didn't want a reconciliation?

 

I think if a bunch of Indian people converted to the ancient Druid faith and occupied Ireland claiming a birth right, and in the process put Irish-Catholic people in refugee camps, you would be singing a different tune.

I have always contended that Jews not from the approximate region in and around Israel proper by blood/heritage have no rights to Israel.

What business does some Jew from Russia and India have to claim birth rights to Israel ? They don't anymore than Catholics from Peru to have a claim to Rome since their faith started there.

 

Some people choose to group by religion rather than ethnicity.

 

Not at the expense of the indigenous population whose only crime was changing faiths thousands of years earlier. Most Muslims in and around Isreal deep down know they are descendants of Jews and Christians who either converted to Islam by choice or threat.

 

Why support those who leave less choice to others?

 

Well, because two wrongs don't make a right. In Saudi Arabia, it is pretty much impossible to be a Christian or a Jew and live in peace. That doesn't justify taking the Palestinian Muslims (whose ancestors were the ancient Jewish Israelite) and put them into refugee camps so a bunch of non-Middle Eastern Jews can come and occupy it. It goes against logic and common sense to believe that these two Jews from Ireland are descendants of Abraham, who was born in Ur, Iraq;



This family, on the other hand, are real actual Iraqi Jews. It's obvious who the true descendants of the Israelite are.

 

wrong.

the Palestinians are the descendants of 1,200 years of Muslim migrants to Palestine.

they were Arabs, Persians, Kurds, Bosnians, Egyptians, and others.

most Palestinians are NOT descended from ancient Jewish communities.

 

You yourself posted a link a while back that showed the Palestinians had a huge genetic tie to the Israelite, if I am not mistaken.

 

From your own Jewish sources in Israel, @Ronstar

“The closest genetic neighbors to most Jewish groups were the Palestinians, Israeli Bedouins, and Druze in addition to the Southern Europeans, including Cypriots,” as Ostrer and Skorecki wrote in a review of their findings that they co-authored in the journal Human Genetics in October 2012.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/science/1.681385

 

I consider myself a typical Ashkenazi Jew.

white skin, green/blue eyes, dark hair that was blond when I was a baby.

5'9"

3/4 of my grandparents are from western Ukraine. the other from Minsk.



according go the genetic website Gedmatch.com, the closest ethnicities to my genepool are the following, listed by genetic proximity:

#Population (source)Distance

Ashkenazi 3.462
East_Sicilian 5.923
Central_Greek 6.764
West_Sicilian 7.285
South_Italian 8.026
Italian_Abruzzo 8.397
Greek_Thessaly 8.728
Italian_Jewish 9.959
Sephardic_Jewish 10.5310
Algerian_Jewish 10.5611
Tuscan 12.2912
Tunisian_Jewish 13.6613
Libyan_Jewish 14.2514
Bulgarian 16.5415
Cyprian 17.6216
North_Italian 18.3817
Romanian 18.5418
Lebanese_Muslim 20.5619
Syrian 21.3920
Turkish 22.32

 

i guess that makes me a freak, cause I am closer to Sicialians, Southern Italians and Greeks, than Palestinians, Bedouins and Druze.

 

Were there Jews in southern Italy and Greece during the time of Jesus ?

 

what do you think?

 

I'm literally asking; How could there be Jews outside of a region when the diaspora hadn't happened yet ? It doesn't make sense.

 

LOL!!!!

sometimes you say the silliest things.

there were millions of Jews outside of Judea, at the time of Jesus.

at one point the Roman Empire was 10% Jewish.

we were all over modern day Italy, Greece, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, North Africa, Turkey and probably also Yugoslavia due to its proximity to Greece and Italy.

 

It says the earliest mention of Jews in Greece was 300-250 BCE on the island of Rhodes. I'll grant you they were spread out - BUT, were these Jews Middle Eastern Jews who were roaming around Greece, or were they Greek guys who were practicing Judaism ?

 

it is impossible to know as we have no photos from 300 BC

Jews converted a lot of Greeks and Romans before Christianity took hold.

the main reason used to justify kicking Jews out of Spain, Portugal, England, France, Germany, Austria, was to keep Jews from spreading their faith.

 

Interesting. I can't blame them for converting because I think Jews have a very logical view of God. I guess at the end of the day, it's never made sense to me how people who don't look Middle Eastern can claim birthrights to a Middle Eastern region.

I'm not playing favorites. I would condemn a bunch of Indians practicing a Druid faith claiming rights to Ireland.

 

none of this has ANYTHING to do with the subject in the OP.

 

If Ireland was a stateless island and those Indians bought land, developed it , create an economy, built cities and lastly fought for their indipendance, you would have to stick your condeminations to where you stick those against Israel.

 

That's a bs argument that totally ignores the problems inherent in your position, up to and including what happens to mixed families.

Bottom line on Israel--it was a pass-through wasteland used mostly by wandering nomads until the Israelis put a lot of sweat equity into it and turned it into an oasis paradise in the middle of mostly desert. Now that it's desirable, others desire it...but until it was, so-called "Palestinians" were kept in camps for generations building up vengeance engineered by scheming Arabs.

 

this has NOTHING to do with the OP.

please don't get trapped into this derail