fox news and the GOP are responsible for the increasing immigration

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  1. gringo

    gringo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NOT ONE TIME did Biden or the democrats claim there would be open borders when trump left the whitehouse..

    what Biden said was he was gonna stop wasting money on a silly wall and try to repair the immigration system

    BUT

    over and over and over the GOP and trump said

    "Biden is gonna have open boarders"

    so the central americans took the GOP at their word and flocked to the southern border

    after all , trump and the GOP repeated it so often this message was bound to make in to central america

    so actually the border crises was created by the GOP and their campaign rhetoric
     
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  2. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    False.

    Biden:

    "What I would do as president is several more things, because things have changed. I would, in fact, make sure that there is, we immediately surge to the border all those people are seeking asylum, they deserve to be heard. That’s who we are. We’re a nation who says, if you want to flee, and you’re freeing oppression, you should come."
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    What a miserable excuse for Democrats failure


    On par with the delusion that the GOP is for defunding the police
     
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    You've chosen an interesting quote. And any good and decent Americans would agree with his belief that if people are fleeing oppression, they should be able to come to America to be heard. Legally cross the border and plead your case. That is not at all 'open borders'.
     
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  5. Lil Mike

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    Most of the people crossing the southern border are claiming asylum. But it seems a means to an end; staying in the US. They are processed released, and either given a court date or told to contact ICE for one, and then they are released. They are never going to be made to leave. That sounds like open borders to me.
     
  6. lemmiwinx

    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Didn't some mostly senile Democrat president cancel Trump's border policies on day one of his presidency in 2021? Or was that just a dream I had?

    Fox News is innocent!
     
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    So if someone is coming to America (via land or air or boat) legally and claiming asylum, what do you think should be done with them?
     
  8. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Asylum status is based on persecution for race, religion, nationality, and "social group" or political opinions. That characterizes very few of the people who are claiming asylum. Nicaragua isn't conducting pogroms against groups and neither are the other Latin American nations. In fact, the only 2 countries that could plausibly have asylees are Cuba and Venezuela. But that's not the bulk of the people crossing the border.

    So that should be determined in their very first intake interview and they should be sent home immediately. That's what should be done instead of letting them go within the US.
     
  9. gringo

    gringo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    fox news in many things...innocent is NOT one of them

    the message from both fox and trump were if biden won there would be open borders..

    the very minute trump lost the immigrants felt that there would be a green light at the borders

    trump ran his campaign with the slogan if biden wins it would be open boarders

    biden said he would repair the broken system..

    but since the battle at the Alamo , there has been problems at the southern border

    trumps only idea was to build a wall across texas, new mexico, arizona and california

    trump spent billion on a useless wall that is about effective as the great wall of china

    all trump did the last year of his presidency was chant .."biden wins open boarders"

    trump could not fix the problems with a wall..at least biden stopped the wall

    trump, Biden or the next president will not repair the broken system

    a system that has been broken for almost 200 years isn't easy
     
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    Biden won and we have open borders. All the predictions were correct.
     
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  11. gringo

    gringo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    first the little lie .. then the BIG lie

    the above quote proves my point

    the borders are not a free for all...thousands are captured daily

    the attempts to cross the border rose significantly after trump lost

    the number of attempts increased BIGLY because of trumps little lie

    it is because trump and fox put put the out little lie

    thousands decided this was a good time sneak across

    the increased traffic is not because of biden, it is because of trumps little lie
     
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    yep, Republicans been screaming from the rooftops that Biden would let them in, that is why they came

    Republicans invited them
     
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    False.

    Candidate Biden: "What I would do as president is several more things, because things have changed. I would, in fact, make sure that there is, we immediately surge to the border all those people are seeking asylum, they deserve to be heard. That’s who we are. We’re a nation who says, if you want to flee, and you’re freeing oppression, you should come."
     
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    those seeking asylum are always heard, that is the legal way to come
     
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    Irrelevant to the point you were making that "Republicans invited them."

    That's simple false.
     
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    were talking about those coming illegally, not those coming legally

    but either way, republicans invited them too, they were screaming it from the rooftops and foreigners hear that invite loud and clear
     
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  17. Lil Mike

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    I'm sorry but you are just wrong.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    your saying republicans never said illegals could come here under Biden, lol, I'm sorry but you are just wrong.
     
  19. Lil Mike

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    You said Republicans invited them. Can you source Republicans inviting illegals? I can certainly source Biden doing it.

    Candidate Biden: "What I would do as president is several more things, because things have changed. I would, in fact, make sure that there is, we immediately surge to the border all those people are seeking asylum, they deserve to be heard. That’s who we are. We’re a nation who says, if you want to flee, and you’re freeing oppression, you should come."
     
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    by telling the world they could come under Biden.... that was an invitation

    there are many people around the world that would love to have a chance to live here
     
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    Oh what a bunch of damn horse scat... You're going to have a long 3 years making excuses for your guys failures
     
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    I am glad Trump is out, he was a bigger failure, yes, Biden was not the best choice, but that was our choices
     
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    Trying to blame biden's failure on the border on Trump in the GOP is absolutely freaking delusional.

    So if I tell you, you in general that is......... That you were going to fail at something because you have a long history of those failures then you turn around and fail and it's suddenly my fault for observing what is so....

    I'm glad I'm not a Democrat I don't have to stretch that damn far to make stupid excuses.
     
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    where did I do that, I just said "Trump is out, he was a bigger failure, yes, Biden was not the best choice, but that was our choices"
     
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    Wow. Sorry but that's ridiculous.
     
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