French academic: Create an Islamic state within France to avoid civil war

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Is this a viable solution at all? Would it become an Islamic Quebec? Would Islamic minorities in other countries demand the same type of state?

     
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    I have a much better solution. Do what people who have no longer felt able to live in their own societies have done for millenia - leave. I live in a country full of such people & with more arriving every day. Most of the people described by the Professor are not long descended from such people (or may actually be immigrants). If they can't find a place in the most free & prosperous societies that have ever existed then they can leave.

    That doesn't just apply to Muslims. If Christians or Jews or White Supremacists or any other group is so unable to live under the law of their free & democratic societies that they feel the need to separate they can F:censored:K RIGHT OFF & find a place they do belong. I suspect this would apply to a few people on this very board.
     
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    When you post these articles you should probably do a search first to make sure there isn't already a thread or two about the subject.
     
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    Maybe even you
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The French are great at three things; food, appeasement and surrender.

    A division within France to appease Islamic extremists is a temporary measure that will end just like France's appeasement of Germany.

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    Since you bring Germany up, how did German appeasement against napoleonic france turned out in retrospect for Germany?
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They tried to get even a few times.
     
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    Chickens have come home to roost

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    You've argued previously on this forum that multiculturalism and mass immigration is both an unqualified good and, as your current post seems to argue, just revenge for past actions. Could you make up your mind?
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No doubt you are looking forward to the inevitable war that will follow this roost. My money is on the modern world over the barbarians. The problem is that citizens of the modern world will be reluctant to go to war until French citizens are being publicly beheaded in France.
     
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    Every time a truck rams into civilians, or concerts get bombed, it's "Chickens coming home to roost." So the answer to your question is yes, Ronstar is looking forward to the upcoming civil war.
     
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    Tried to get even? France attacked Germany dozens of times over hundreds of years. In your war of independence France took german kids as slaves and send them to america to fight against the british. The british also took germans as slaves and used them to fight against washington.

    Do you know the 30 year war when french rtoops erased entire cities in Germany like Magdeburg?

    WW I and WW II combined did not as much cruelity in France as France did in Germany before.
     
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    As a french, I prefer we nuke ourselve rather letting anypart of those territory ruled by this scum.
     
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    Good idea, but I doubt your countrymen will go for it. They've become like the Italians; lovers not fighters.
     
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    Unfortunately, islamoleftism did a lot of harm and spred a lot of lies. How many french people would pretend that Islam is religion of love when it's only about slaughters ?
     
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    Says the one from the country that never won any mayor war. Dont bring up WW I or WW II. You were merly sidekicks who entered when it was already over. Your country lost evry single war in its existance that it fought alone. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan.

    You celebrate a patheticly small conflict like your "civil war" which would be seen as minor squirmish in Europe.

    Your country doesnt know what war is.
     
  17. Max Rockatansky

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    ROFLMAO. Duuuude, still pissed at me because I kicked your ass in our last debate? No worries, kid. You'll heal, just like Germany after the massive beating it took in the 1940s.
     
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    You dont kick ass at a debate. You exchange arguments. You lost the argument btw.

    Dont worry old man you amuse me.
     
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    Why? How often do you hear me whine endlessly about my nation? I love it & I'm happy with it more or less as it is. A few tweaks here & there, but nothing major.

    Perhaps you might want to look in the mirror.
     
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    i believe that France has done a HORRIBLE job trying to integrate their immigrant communities.

    this is well documented.

    i also believe that one of the reasons why france has soo many African immigrants is because they chose to invade and colonize Africa.

    so clearly a lot of their problems are self-inflicted
     
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    Muslims have homelands. If you migrate to another country, you must be willing to be one of them- not there to create a colony for those homelands. If you don't wish to be one of the citizens of the place you have migrated to- go home. You don't belong there.

    Theodore Roosevelt on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN

    "In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
     
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    I suppose they could do the smart thing; outlaw Islam, send in the military, round them all up, and dump them back where they came from. Offended? In your heart, you know that surgery now avoids amputation later.
     
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    Well- one does have to have concerns about a "religion" that advocates the kind of hatred that Islam does, especially when the leaders of that religion continue to endorse the worst of it. You may remember Salman Rushdie, the english author whose book offended the Ayatollah Khomeini? And, the million dollar bounty (fatwa) Khomeini put on his head? Of course that was 1989, 28 years ago. several leaders have come and gone in Iran, but- the outrageous bounty still stands.

    I have a copy of the Koran; I wanted to see for myself why children would march in the streets of Islamic countries crying "Death to America". They are being raised with that hate as a religious duty, a moral mandate.
     
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    You are free to believe you won just like you believe the US lost WWII.
     
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    I did not say you lost WWII. You did barely participate at least in europe.

    As for myself, i always win. Its in my DNA. :)
     

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