French Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson dies at 89

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Faurisson was a hack historian, but knew a lot about medieval french literature. As to the fragility in question, it is evident its the intellectual capability on display of holocaust deniers themselves.

    OTOH, I do agree that they expose themselves with great regularity and seeming obliviousness to their bare arsed intellectual midgetry.
     
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    I made the correction when I say I didn't grab the whole page in my c&p. And since you have been presented with it on at least 2 dozen occasions or more over the years.

    As for the verbose rubbish, I find it hilarious that you consistently and persistently use every single one of those tactics as does the rest of your revisionist comrades in arms.

    Why its almost like Zundel and the gang actually developed and published these tactics (albeit from a more supportive perspective.) all Philips did was accurately characterize the bullshit hypocrisy of the tactics and their underlying bullshit.

    In fact you can find them as "sticky" posts on many a nazi, fascist, ethnic nationalist, racist, jew hating sites. Which one did you get yours tactical approach from?
     
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    It was converted to a gas chamber - i.e. it was used as a prototype for volume gassing. It was built as a morgue. Can you discern the difference or is your semantic processor on the blink?


    And as for clowns and idiots - naturally you then pull out LUECHTER!!!!!!!. Well I must admit that is a perfect description of good ol "Mr. Death" Fred.

    And FYI, the gas is lighter than air, so drains have NO IMPACT whatsoever. And the blueprints CLEARLY indicate the presence of TWO ventilation systems in the morgue/crema complex. But ignor all that and listen to Zundel's pet clown.




    I've posted this for you a dozen times. His "documented" scientific analysis can be seen at 33 minutes or so. Its hilariously incompetent. (he did it on his honeymoon and his wife was a "look out" because he was illegally "collecting evidence". Its almost trumpian in its stupidity.

    (ignore the spanish subtitles)

     
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    It sums it up brillllllliantly, no matter what.
     
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    According to whom? The media. Hmmm...wonder why they would say that? Not like they are being financed by Jews, hrmrmrmrmrrm

    But even more so, unless you're just looking to slander-bash someone the minute they say something about Jews you'd probably know- from taking their comments in context- that they are not talking about all Jewish people, but they are talking about a Jewish power structure. Most people will undoubtedly have good relationships with the Jews they meet in their day to day and not many will likely hate Jews in general. But they understand on a certain level that even these people who would be their friends on one level would be opponents on another because when pressure is brought down on their situation or relationship a Jewish person will support their own culture or society and if that society is criminal in nature, this is a problem.
     
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    ...is that right...well...what a strange outlook on life some people have...
     
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    As usual, you're avoiding the facts that make it impossible for the morgue at Auschwitz 1 to ever have functioned as a homicidal gas chamber in which "thousands of screaming people" were gassed each day.

    Anyone gullible enough to believe that the Germans would locate a homicidal gas chamber capable of gassing "hundreds of people at a time" next door to the Gestapo office building and across the street from the camp hospital has no business calling other people "clowns, morons & idiots".

    The following are other reasons the Auschwitz 1 morgue could never have functioned as a homicidal gas chamber:

    "Listen to what a gas chamber expert had to say about the Holocaust gas chambers"
    https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/floor-drain-in-auschwitz-gas-chamber/
    EXCERPT
    "4. Construction
    Construction of these facilities shows that they were never used as gas chambers.
    None of these facilities were sealed or gasketed.

    No provision was ever made to prevent condensation of gas on the walls, floor or ceiling.
    No provision ever existed to exhaust the air-gas mixture from these buildings.
    No provision ever existed to introduce or distribute the gas throughout the chamber.
    No explosion-proof lighting existed and no attempt was ever made to prevent gas from entering the crematories, even though the gas is highly explosive.
    No attempt was made to protect operating personnel from exposure to the gas or to protect other non-participating persons from exposure.
    Specifically, at Auschwitz, a floor drain in the alleged gas chamber was connected directly to the camp’s storm drain system."CONTINUED

    Your chronic use of slander & insults is a pitiful substitute for common sense, solid facts & knowledge of the material at hand.
     
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    An earlier Post #15 from this same thread remains salient to the topic at hand:

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    Ah, no not the media, the actual proponents of holocaust denial. You think Zunel, Rudolph, Butz, Farisson, Barnes etc. weren't jew hating nazi lovers?

    And thanks for the bigoted insight into jews. Why its almost like you believe the stereotypes.
     
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    AS USUAL YOU IGNORE THE FACT YOU ARE REPEATING ABSOLUTE NONSENSE FROM A TRULY INCOMPETENT FRAUD.

    Oh wait, of course, to you he's an actual "gas chamber expert" on par with the rest of the denialist "experts".

    But I realize the the clowns and morons and idiots that actually generate, promote and believe in such nonsense are not capable of ascertaining if the source of their most sacred myths are themselves clowns morons and idiots.


    since you insist on using the old worn out stupid tactics of denialism, I shall take a page out of your book and respond by repeating the same things over and over in response to your debunked repetition of bullshit.
    5. Sticks and Stones -- If you're being wiped out with evidence and reasoning you cannot refute, you can always take refuge in complaining about the language being used by your adversaries. For example, if they say, "I've already explained that it takes less gas to kill people than lice, and therefore there are fewer cyanide residues remaining on the gas chamber walls than on the delousing chamber walls, you moron," you can respond by complaining about their use of the word "moron." You can actually evade quite a bit of serious discussion by spending a lot of time condescendingly lecturing the newsgroup about their use of trashy language. But this approach doesn't work very well in building credibility. You may view yourself as an arbiter of social discourse but you'll actually come off like a den-mother scurrying around excoriating the little Cub Scouts to behave themselves.

    9. Kafka Was Here -- Argue that the gas chambers never existed because there are no photos or drawings of them. When you are presented with photos and drawings, state that they could not possibly be actual photos/drawings of gas chambers because the gas chambers never existed because there are no photos/drawings of them because they never existed because...

    14. If you don't want to look like a total buffoon, there's always the pseudo-academic, above-the-fray approach. With a huge dose of arrogance and superiority, explain that you are neither a revisionist nor any other "label", merely someone with a healthy skepticism about everything, including Holocaust history (ALL of it), and that you are conducting your own research to determine for yourself whether certain Holocaust incidents actually took place. Pretend to be totally impartial (despite the avalanche of Holocaust evidence you would encounter the minute you actually began any legitimate research), but in your posts only question the Holocaust historians' statements, not revisionists' statements.

    17. Although all of your arguments will be consistently blown to smithereens, just wait a few days or weeks and then re-post them.

    18. Remember that the revisionist community is peopled mainly by racists, white-supremacists, Israel-bashers, and Nazis. This means that everyone except these kinds of people will dismiss you. But don't let that stop you. Don't let your Fellini-esque, internally inconsistent, un-researched, hypocritical distortions and lies prevent you from continuing to post. After all, you're fighting for the truth (as you'd like it to be).
     
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    See what happens when denialists use fallacious logic to support their stupidity and are forced to back it up with facts?
     
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    Oh, I'm a bigot and a Jew-hater. Never heard that one. Not like it's instantly dragged out and used repeatedly, right? Oh, and four people describe the arguments of all other people criticizing Israel. The sense blows my mind. Are you levitating now from your heightened awareness?
     
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    RIP Robert. Your view/opinion was very wrong, but death isn't something one generally ought to celebrate.
     
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    Well at least you are aware of your biases.

    And I don't instantly drag it out, it takes a trigger - you know something like a non=jew opining on what jews think and what their motivations and responses are and what constitutes an anti-semite as opposed to a critic of Israel.

    Since it appears you think levitation is the path to heightened awareness, I am not at all surprised at your lack of altitude.
     
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    CAUTION: TANTRUM ALERT!


    My simple question that you are desperate to avoid answering is why would the Germans locate a homicidal gas chamber capable of gassing "thousands of people per day" across from the camp hospital and next door to the Gestapo office building where the toxic fumes would sicken or kill anyone nearby?

    The answer is that the didn't and wouldn't because the morgue at Auschwitz 1 never served as a homicidal gas chamber as anyone with common sense can see.

    I would certainly refrain from calling others idiots, morons & frauds if you're gullible enough to believe that fraudulent holocaust myth about the Auschwitz 1 morgue.
     
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    So, now you're desperate enough to trot out a silly diversion that had nothing to do with gas chambers and everything to to with the political, legal and financial influence of the multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry.

    How does one "prove" the existence of homicidal gas chambers in Poland etc from a courtroom in California?

    Answer: With a biased & politically motivated judge, a bogus "judicial order" proclaiming what the Holocaust Industry wants, a multi million dollar legal team & a complicit MSM.

    In fact, Mermelstein proved nothing except at the second trial in 1991 which you don't mention when he succeed in proving himself a chronic liar:
    EXCERPT:
    "Caught

    In all, I discovered 30 absurdities, 22 contradictions, and a number of exaggerations. These examples went directly to the matter of Mermelstein as a "demonstrable fraud," a "vainglorious prevaricator," and a "false-tale spinner."

    Among the absurdities were the nonexistent subterranean tunnel to the above-ground crematory, the soap made from Jewish bodies, a claim that Auschwitz camp "kapos" were rewarded for every prisoner they killed, and that there was a railroad track leading from the crematory to a pond for dumping ashes." (1)CONTINUED


    Mermelstein also espouses the long debunked "human soap" myth.
    If a politically motivated judge in California issued "judicial notice" supporting the "human soap" myth, you'd probably believe that long debunked fable too.
     
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    Re:
    I'm afraid that you'll be called worse than that by people gullible enough to believe silly stories like the following:

    “Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”
    http://balder.org/judea/The-Most-Fan...e-Miracles.php

    EXCERPTS:
    • Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen

    • William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years

    • Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis

    • Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses

    • Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated

    • Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED


    Meanwhile, there are far more people who do not believe the fraudulent standard holocaust narrative than are gullible enough to believe their nonsense.


    ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

    This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

    Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED
     
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    I see that you have no clue about the chemical properties of potassium cyanide gas. But that is par for the course. willful ignorance is an important component of idiot revisionism.

    I see physical evidence, hundreds of eyewitness accounts, thousands of confessions are not match for your "common sense". I've noticed that every revisionist suffers from the arrogance of ignorance.

    I can only call em like I see em, and you are playing by the revisionist playbook to the letter.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Seems you have no clue what "judicial notice" is. Naturally the deniers and the gang at IHR who's balls were on the line had to raise every objection under the sun and even more naturally, their acolytes sucked it up as if it had some relevance to the issue at hand.


    McCalden, Carto, and latterly Webber, sure aren't raging radical racist fascist scumbags, but dispassionate academics solely interested in the pursuit of truth as they would like it. But then again, they do rely on the gullibility and like mindedness of their followers. Its easy to convince people who already believe in your bullshit after all.
     
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    Yeah, because only a Jew can make the distinction. Basically, just make your avatar "You're an anti-semite" because I'm pretty sure any criticism of Israel is bound to end up at that conclusion.

    But so I can make myself clear, I don't hate Jews, I hate Israel. And I, for one, would not mind watching it crumble and dissolve into the sea. Good riddance to those Nazi scumbags.
     
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    At this very moment it's illegal to even question the official narrative about the Holocaust in most places in Europe. Not a red flag at all (rolls eyes...)

    And the media hasn't even reported on the Jew's (by this I mean that it's not simply Israeli Jews involved in this, it is an international thing...) attempts to sneak legislation in that is making it increasingly harder and harder to criticize Israel. HR 246 is paving the way to ultimately making it illegal to criticize Israel, they just have to sneak it in a little at a time to prevent people from seeing it for what it is- an assassination of freedom of speech and the right to protest.

    It's a joke and I'm just going to watch until the day Israel will be flying it's flag over the White House.
     
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    Your misread is not surprising.

    See, criticism of Israeli government policies is not at all the the same as criticism of jews for being jews.


    The portrayal of Israelis as nazi scumbags all the while proclaiming no hate for jews is the kind of lame bullshit reasoning that I've come to expect from a certain class of bigot.
     
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    Yes, I see you aren't familar with the concept of judicial notice. Odd that its a crime in the countries most effected by the nazi perversion.

    No that wasn't the jews, that was the EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS who have a serious hard on for Israel being around on account of their own religious beliefs. Perhaps you are familiar with the Christian bible and Revelations? Gotta have the jews in jerusalem so Jesus can return triumphant and raise all them dead believers.

    Well I agree there's a joke, but it ain't what you think it is.

    Keep vigilant, because surely you understand that should the day come when the Israeli Flag flies over the white house it's the day that every damn white nationalist, neo nazi, fascist, jew hater will be dead.
     

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