French Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson dies at 89

Here is a video from an outspoken American teacher:



Of course, in most European countries and in Canada free speech has been a long forgotten privilege from the distant past. It's only fair the United States gets hit with the same legislation. I wonder, if the proud Americans would take it lying down like the Canadians and Germans did.

 

I was not talking about the chemical properties of potassium cyanide gas and am not aware of a "revisionist playbook".

However, I do think that it's obvious to anyone following this exchange that you are desperately trying to evade the fact that the very well organized Germans would not locate a homicidal gas chamber capable of "gassing thousands of screaming people per day" next to the Gestapo office building and directly across from the camp hospital.

There is absolutely no physical evidence you can show that the morgue at Auschwitz was used by the Germans to gas "thousands of people per day" & the most credible testimony was by the last Commandant, Richard Baer, who stated that there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz but had a suspicious "heart attack" the night before he was to deliver that testimony at his trial in the 1960s.

The only "confessions" that there were gas chambers were obtained by torture and all of your gas chamber eyewitness accounts are contradictory, inaccurate or absurd hoaxes like Moshe Peer (1) who claimed to have been gassed 6 times & "gas chamber survivor", Gena Turgel (2) who also claims to have nursed Ann Frank, found true love and goes on to entertain gullible holocaustian dupes with the usual fictitious fodder characteristic of fraudulent & profitable holocaust lore.

Now, my question for the 3rd time is:
Why would the well organized Germans locate a homicidal gas chamber capable of gassing " thousands of screaming people per day" next to the Gestapo office building and directly across from the camp hospital?



(1) “Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”
http://balder.org/judea/The-Most-Fan...e-Miracles.php

EXCERPTS:
• Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen

• William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years

• Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis

• Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses

• Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated

• Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED



(2) "Auschwitz survivor Gena Turgel walked out of a gas chamber alive"
https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/...ena-turgel-walked-out-of-a-gas-chamber-alive/
EXCERPT "This quote is from the article in the Daily Mail in 2005:

Gena Turgel entered the gas chamber at Auschwitz and lived to tell the tale.

In the winter of 1944, the 21-year-old was made to strip naked with her mother inside the concentration camp’s extermination block and wait, but miraculously the deadly poison was never released.

“We were trembling. I didn’t know where we were. Inside, it looked terrible. A woman came in that I recognised from a previous camp. She was very shocked I was there and went out again.

“We waited a while and then water came through the walls. It was wonderful. For many weeks we had had no water on our backs. We were all drinking it.

“As we came outside, the women there said how wonderful it was to see us. They screamed with happiness. I didn’t understand what they meant. I said ‘What are you shouting about?’

“They said ‘Don’t you know? You were in the gas chamber.’ I lost my voice. I couldn’t produce any saliva.”

Gena puts her survival down to a “power over a power” and believes that God was watching over her.

“The woman who came in. I never saw her again. Perhaps she did something.”

More than 60 years on, the great-grandmother still cannot believe how lucky she was to escape death.

“Many times, I have to touch myself to check I’m really alive. One appreciates life so much.”CONTINUED

 

You're right. It is illegal to question the fragile holocaust narrative in numerous Western democracies even though most people around the world do not believe the same multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry's long & twisted attempts at profitable deception.

Fabricated holocaust "personal accounts" are profitable because of an ongoing interest in grisly yet fictitious stories about WW 2 & gruesome holocaust lore. (1)

Regrettably, survivor accounts that refute the standard holocaust narrative and contradict widespread holocaust fictions are rarely heard of.(2), (3) because of this criminalization of the truth.

In other words, not all holocaust survivors lie about homicidal gas chambers, flaming crematorium chimneys, electrified "Conveyor Belts of Death" (4) and being shot for crying.

Most simply report that they worked & in their free time enjoyed movies, camp produced plays, music, libraries and/or treatment at the camp hospital but that's not the fodder that sells nor does the for-profit Holocaust Industry support any but the most grotesque of fictions that are consistent with their grisly theme parks (aka museums).

Finally, those with the courage & capacity for independent thought who do reject the fraudulent standard holocaust narrative comprise the vast majority of the world and more importantly, the younger generations(5).

In spite of the desperate attempts of the multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry to market their "product", it is the skeptical younger generations we must depend on to restore free speech about this & all historical events.

The Truth welcomes the sunlight of open discussion and honest examination while a Lie can only survive under the darkness of repressive censorship laws.

(1) "Could there be anything more twisted than these Holocaust fantasists? How more and more people are making up memoirs about witnessing Nazi crimes"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html

EXCERPT "Unfortunately, despite all these examples, publishers are still wilfully selling suspect memoirs based on the Holocaust and the war.

No doubt there will be more books of this type. With publishers fighting it out to sell the latest tale of World War II derring-do, or Holocaust misery, it seems unlikely this is a genre that will die out.

Anybody reading these books should stop and ask themselves whether what they hold in their hands is, in fact, true." CONTINUED


(2) "Auschwitz Was NOT a 'Death Camp' - Holocaust Survivor Testimony"
https://archive.org/details/AuschwitzWasNotAdeathCamp-HolocaustSurvivorTestimony


(3) "Treblinka was No Extermination Camp - Just Transit Station"


EXCERPT "Treblinka was No Extermination Camp - Just Transit Station- a video proving the Holocaust propaganda is full of lies and the reason behind not letting people in Europe studying it"CONTINUED


(4) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"

https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED


”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

EXCERPT “Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

- Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

- people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED

 

Hallo, Grau;
I was told that there were no gassings at Auschwitz, but all the gassing took place in nearby Birkenau.
Do you know anything about that argument?

 

Hello Jazz,

Yes, I've heard the same thing and for a few of the reasons I've listed here and in related threads do not believe that there were any of the mass gassings of "hundreds of screaming people" at any of the camps & especially at Auschwitz 1.

As you probably know, the British cracked the German's Enigma code in 1941 and were able to listen to all classified German radio transmissions. However in the thousands of radio messages there was not one mention of "mass gassings etc"(1)

Additionally, both the Vatican and the Red Cross interviewed the inmates after the camps were liberated and, at that time, there were absolutely no reports of homicidal gas chambers(2). There are additional hard facts that refute the gas chamber myth listed at the same source (2).

Finally, death by cyanide gas or carbon monoxide sometimes causes the victims skin to turn cherry red or unusually red (3), (4), (5), (6) yet I can't recall any of the "gas chamber eyewitnesses" reporting that shocking & unusual fact.

It is for these reasons and many more that I do not believe that there could have been more than a very few isolated gassings of any type and certainly nothing like the thousands of mass gassings as claimed in fictional holocaust mythology.



(1) "The Enemy Is Listening!"
https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/8/1/4028

EXCERPT "Oddly, only a very few Holocaust historians were interested in the information on the concentration camps. The reason for this astonishing lack of interest is presumably due to the following remark by author Hinsley:
The messages from Auschwitz, the largest camp, with 20,000 inmates,[4] mention disease as the chief cause of death, but also include references to executions by hanging and shooting. The decoded messages contain no references to gassings." CONTINUED


(2) “The Problems of Mass Gassing”
http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/was-there-really-a-judaic-holocaust/
EXCERPT
4). The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed camp inmates at the end of the War about alleged gas chambers. The response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have not spoken of them" (Red Cross document No. 9925, June 1946)." CONTINUED


(3) "Johns Hopkins"
http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/publications/cyanide-fact-sheet

Signs and Symptoms

EXCERPT
"Other: acute lung injury, nausea and vomiting, cherry-red skin color."
CONTINUED



(4) "Cyanide Toxicity"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK507796/

EXCERPT "Patients with cyanide poisoning will not be cyanotic but will have a cherry red color due to excess oxygen in the bloodstream."CONTINUED



(5) "Cyanide Poisoning Treatment, Symptoms & Effects - eMedicineHealth"
https://www.emedicinehealth.com/cyanide_poisoning/article_em.htm

1. EXCERPT "The skin of a cyanide-poisoned person can sometimes be unusually pink or cherry-red because oxygen will stay in the blood and not get into the cells."CONTINUED

(6) "Cyanide poisoning"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanide_poisoning

EXCERPT "A cherry red skin color that changes to dark may be present"CONTINUED

 

For additional information on the mythical Auschwitz - Birkenau "gas chambers", please take a look at the following source


"CHAPTER 10: AUSCHWITZ"
http://thesixmillionfactorfiction.blogspot.com/2018/01/chapter-10-auschwitz.html

EXCERPT "Below: The original German architectural building plans for Crematorium II at the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp, on public display in the camp museum today. According to this original plan, there is no gas chamber. It is claimed that the underground structures, marked very clearly as mortuaries (“leichenkellers”) were used as gas chambers.

Finally, by coincidence, the US Air Force flew a number of reconnaissance missions over the Auschwitz complex on May 31, 1944—in preparation for a bombing raid of the region’s industrial facilities. The date of the reconnaissance mission is of critical importance for debunking the “Hungarian Jews mass gassing” allegations—because the images, as released by the US government many years after the war, showed no activity at the camp’s crematoria, no “columns of smoke” nor crowds of “hundreds of thousands of Jews” being unloaded at the camp."CONTINUED

 

Hi... and many thanks for your kind responses to my naive inquiries.
It's late again. My head is running over with a whole mixture of info. All day I have been reading on and off. My last piece is this:

In Nuremberg the propaganda lies of the victors were given reference numbers. Since then they have become "facts"

All courts have continually prevented all gas-chamber doubters from use of any evidence for their scientific facts. The courts have taken the point of view that the "gas-chambers" should be regarded as a commonly-known "fact". "Commonly known" means, that the existence of the gas-chambers is as certain a fact as that the day has 24-hours.
The Nuremburg Military Tribunal introduced the use of "common knowledge" into judicial practice. Pure war-horror propaganda items from the 2nd World War were turned into "facts" (IMT-Statutes 19 and 21), that had to be taken as given by the accused. Defense attorneys who attempted to prove the opposite were threatened with the death penalty.
....
To destroy the German people, only these words are necessary:
"Common Knowledge"

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/cq/remer.html
----
I like the old General Otto Ernst Remer, he has courage and speaks his mind fearlessly.

O.k., and then I also read this great article:
“Nobody was gassed at Auschwitz.”: 60 Rightist Lies and How to Counter Them

https://remember.org/ideas/kz

Good Night!

 

No problem; I am happy to discuss this and any issue with those who are capable of articulating their thoughts free of vulgar hostility & fatuous rancor.

In assessing anything resulting from the fraudulent Nuremberg trials it is important to view then in the context of horrified, ethical observers.
Even Eisenhower's brother regarded the sanctimonious "trials" as a "...black page in the history of the world..."(1).
Other ethical jurists were equally repulsed with what US Supreme Court Chief Justice, Harlan Stone, called a sanctimonious fraud:

"Chief US prosecutor Jackson is away conducting his high-grade lynching party in Nuremberg......I hate to see the pretence that he is running a court and proceeding according to common law. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas."
- US Supreme Court Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone

I wouldn't concern myself with the bogus legal term "common knowledge" as it applies to fictitious "homicidal gas chambers" etc as most people in the world do not believe the mythical standard holocaust narrative(2).
Just as it was "common knowledge" that the sun revolved around the earth long ago, I feel that time, honest examination and hard evidence will destroy the remainder of these gruesome & slanderous holocaust lies.







(1) "President Eisenhower’s Brother, An Attorney, Condemned The Nuremberg & Eichmann Trials"
http://www.renegadetribune.com/president-eisenhowers-brother-attorney-condemned-nuremberg-eichmann-trials/

QUOTE:
"I think the Nuremberg trials are a black page in the history of the world…I discussed the legality of these trials with some of the lawyers and some of the judges who participated therein. They did not attempt to justify their action on any legal ground, but rested their position on the fact that in their opinion, the parties convicted were guilty…"

Edgar N. Eisenhower, American attorney: Brother of President Dwight D. Eisenhower


(2) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

EXCERPT
Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED

 

I am still reading the two sources you cited (it's been a busy day) but in the meantime thought that you may be interested in the contradictions throughout the following article from a MSM source from which I have lifted a few brief excerpts:


"The Auschwitz goalkeeper: British prisoner of war who played in football match at Nazi death camp returns to bury the past"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2443738/The-Auschwitz-goalkeeper-British-prisoner-war-makes-poignant-return-Nazi-death-camp.html


EXCERPTS "During the week prisoners were employed at forced labour camps, but on their rest day they were allowed to play football on a field just outside the camp - with armed German guards watching from the sidelines.

Father-of-one Ron said: “We didn’t work on a Sunday so we used to play football.'

The Red Cross heard about it and brought the teams four sets of shirts - English, Scottish, Irish and Welsh.

'There was the humiliation and the lack of food but on the whole life wasn’t too bad.'

'The Germans, contrary to what a lot of people think, were pretty good to us on the whole.' "CONTINUED


Because this article is from a MSM source it has, of course, the usual inflated casualty numbers and fictions about homicidal gas chambers but I was surprised that the same people who were allegedly torturing, beating and gassing people by the hundreds were at the same time: "...pretty good to us on the whole."

Additionally, if slave laborers were being underfed, overworked and beaten all week, how would they have the strength & energy to play soccer on Sunday?

I very much doubt that the inmates in Stalin's gulags or Eisenhower's death camps had the energy or opportunity to play anything on any day.


I'll comment on the sources you cited later.

 

Hi;
I'm on my last leg, but just had to check quickly if anything new is happening here.
You are right about Stalin and Eisenhower... both of my brothers were there.
Again, I have been deeply involved in reading my latest book as well as on line.
How good is your German? Here is a good article by the German General Otto E. Remer:

http://www.vho.org/D/Beitraege/Zeit.html

Maybe you can figure out how to get the English version

 

Never mind, it seems to me the first link is the English version...

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/cq/remer.html

Sorry, for the slight befuddlement >> old age is creeping up on me!

 

Reading your post over again, I realize we are talking about a British POW in Auschwitz, not some deported Jews. That is a big difference! Remember how Hitler had made several peace offers to England? He didn't want to fight the British because they had similar genes as the Germans!!

 

As I have recently learned from reading various articles about the Nuremberg Trials and small trials decades later in Germany, it is not a question of were there gassings or not. It is a fact, "common knowledge... like there are 24 hours in a day!" that the Germans gassed X-numbers of Jews to death. PERIOD

Quote:
The courts have taken the point of view that the "gas-chambers" should be regarded as a commonly-known "fact". "Commonly known" means, that the existence of the gas-chambers is as certain a fact as that the day has 24-hours.

The Nuremburg Military Tribunal introduced the use of "common knowledge" into judicial practice.

Read here:
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/cq/remer.html
No wonder they all have to go to jail in Germany, no exception!

 

As I have recently learned from reading various articles about the Nuremberg Trials and small trials decades later in Germany, it is not a question of were there gassings or not. It is a fact, "common knowledge... like there are 24 hours in a day!" that the Germans gassed X-numbers of Jews to death. PERIOD!

 

Yes, I'm very much aware of Hitler's fondness for the British.
That's why he sent Rudolf Hess to meet with the British to work out a peace agreement with the Western Allies so that he could focus on the Communist threat.
Unfortunately, Churchill preferred war over Hitler's peace plan(1)

Meanwhile, heavily censored Jewish survivor testimony reports that Jewish inmates also played soccer, played in the famous camp orchestra and had access to the camp library and movies(2)




(1) "Nazis ‘offered to leave western Europe in exchange for free hand to attack USSR"
http://www.historyextra.com/news/se...estern-europe-exchange-free-hand-attack-ussr’

EXCERPT ""A new book claims to have solved the riddle of the flight to Britain in 1941 of Rudolph Hess, Adolf Hitler’s deputy. Historian Peter Padfield has uncovered evidence he says shows Hess, the deputy Fuhrer, brought with him from Hitler a detailed peace treaty, under which the Nazis would withdraw from western Europe in exchange for British neutrality over the imminent attack on Russia. The episode remains, more than 70 years on, shrouded in mystery."CONTINUED


(2) "Auschwitz Was NOT a 'Death Camp' - Holocaust Survivor Testimony"
https://archive.org/details/AuschwitzWasNotAdeathCamp-HolocaustSurvivorTestimony

 

Faurisson said of the Nuremberg "trials":
""I thought that it was not fair at all. Personally, never I would accept, as a vanquished, to be judged by...my victor." (1)

His assessment that the Allies were in no position to fairly judge the vanquished and that the "trials" themselves were a grotesquely corrupt exercise of vengeance were shared by many of the more ethical Allied jurists.

For example:

"I thought at the time and still think that the Nuremberg trials were unprincipled. Law was created ex post facto to suit the passion and clamour of the time. The concept of ex post facto is not congenial to the Anglo-American viewpoint on law."

- US Associate Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas, Nuremberg contemporary

"... a fantastic desecration of the ideals of Western Civilisation, and appalling miscarriage of justice... a misuse of evidence for vicious ends, all of which will someday be exposed as a shocking travesty of high legal and moral principles."

- Professor Henry M. Adams, Ph.D

“About this whole judgment there is the spirit of vengeance, and vengeance is seldom justice. The hanging of the 11 men convicted will be a blot on the American record which we shall long regret.”

- US Senator Robert Taft, 1946

"Chief US prosecutor Jackson is away conducting his high-grade lynching party in Nuremberg......I hate to see the pretence that he is running a court and proceeding according to common law. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas."

- US Supreme Court Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone


Among the outrageous frauds that were considered "common knowledge" was Chief US prosecutor, Robert Jackson's assertion that the Germans employed a "newly invented vaporizer" that could make 20,000 people "disappear".

So, such was the nature of things that were considered "common knowledge" in the fanciful & criminal world of the Nuremberg "trials"



(1) "Robert Faurisson"
http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/30faurisson.html

 

LOL!!!

fascinating theory u got there.

 

He and Ernst Zündel may rot together.

 

That's a cheap and inflammatory response. Rather show some proof that they were wrong.

 

agree, they are wrong, but still see no reason to imprison them just because they don't believe the truth

what would be next, vaxers, flat earthers, birthers, anyone that believes conspiracy theories?

 

Agree with all of that except the anti-vaxers. None of the other groups spread false information that runs a genuine and immediate risk to human life. Anti-vaxers do, and there have already been instances where the spread of such ideas in particular communities has led to increases in mortality.

I'm still not in favour of imprisonment (though I wasn't shedding tears over a recent arrest in Samoa, where over 60 people died in a measles outbreak linked to an anti-vax campaign), but legal liability of some sort would be just fine with me.

 

I agree. Our Foreign Minister at the time who was himself a Jew decided not to do this as he believed it would only give them an extra edge of saying they were being victimised because of their views which is what has happened...and now we are certainly seeing an increase in what you are allowed to say even if not sending you to jail - like in the US it now can attack your job!!

 

Manipulating political favours by exploiting historical events disgust me … such as the U.S. committing treachery in Vietnam, Iran, Irak, Bosnia, Libya, Syria, Cuba, Panama, Grenada and claiming it is fair because the U.S. was the good guy during WW II ….. or Israel acting like Nazis in the Middle East and saying it is OK because of what Jews were subjected to during the Holocaust.

However, that does not excuse deniers of the sacrifice so many American suffered in WW II and the many Jews who parished in the Holocaust. Those who deny historical fact are just as disgusting as those who committed those atrocities in Hitler's name. Men and woman who deny the Holocaust are scum.

 

Unfortunately Israel has been at it again exploiting the holocaust to try and gain pressure from Governments of far right countries onto the ICC to drop the charges against Israel for her war crimes. The interview in Real News below points out that Israel is being investigated for committing crimes which Jews themselves have strongly opposed and that how Israel is acting with her alignment with the far right of the world, not caring if they are antisemetic as long as they love Israel is causing them great concern. The interview also says that although this was called a holocaust event they did not even let in a 92 year old genuine holocaust survivor and are questioning whether Israel should even be allowed to do such things when she is abusing them as in the latest.