Fukushima solutions?

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  1. Brett Nortje

    Brett Nortje Well-Known Member

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    This power plant is dangerously radio active. If we want to clean it up, we need only place and replace things to absorb the radiation, biomass being the best, something flammable, yes? I suggest rotten meat and vegetables, as, that will absorb the radiation as a human would and then we could remove the foods and then be clear of the harms.

    Regarding the actual rods, we could smother them in rotten meat too. Having lobseters eat away at the radiation filled cores could also help.
     
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    One of the worst things about the disaster is the contamination of the surrounding ocean, since the fishing industry is such an important part of Japan's economy and food supply.

    In terms of nuclear power, Japan finds itself in a quandary. The small, geographically remote, highly populated and developed country needs nuclear power. But at the same time it's also one of the worst places geographically for a nuclear disaster to happen.

    What might make more sense, perhaps, is to set up nuclear power plants in the Russian far east and use a large superconductive power line to bring that power to Japan.

    In terms of renewable energy in Japan there have been some interesting schemes to try to capture energy from the ocean waves, but I don't think that is a solution to the entire problem.
     
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    Fukushima is a problem for which the only solution is time, eons of time. Being on the water even encasing it in concrete like Cherobyl won't take the radioactivity out of our milk at the supermarket.
     
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    There are no viable solutions to Fukushima, the damage is done and will continue. The eventual result is quite simple.

    Do Not eat seafood or play in the pacific.
     
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    I think a dome structure to cover up the nuclear power plant will minimize radiation leaks to the nearby region. Ukraine unveiled the world's largest moveable metal structure over the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in 2016. The cost is $2.2 billion.
     
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    Unfortunately the biggest issue cannot be contained by a dome or any other structure as it is ocean contamination.
     
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    Water contamination is no longer an ongoing issue and 1 million tonnes of
    contaminated water is safely stored in large tanks without leaking into the ocean. Radionuclide levels in salmon from 2014 were below the minimum detectable concentration and Japan has started exporting Fukushima fish to Thailand this month. However, Fukushima itself is still dangerously contaminated as radiation levels in a nearby Fukushima village remain three times higher than the government target despite cleanup work.

     
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    This can be 'solved' by using radio waves under the ocean to influence the 'radiation.' Radiation is like a sickly type of heat where 'the rot factor' of the water and stuff in the water is high. The answer is to balance the excessive electron counts with pairing them through a modest underwater signal, or, excessive protons being released into the water, so as to nullify the excited state.
     
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    We can't fix fukushima. But we can stop building nuclear reactors. Given a long enough timeline, there will be more catastrophes. A nuclear reactor is essentially designed to create this effect, and only by harnassing the energy of the reaction do we prevent it.

    In other words, it takes constant, competent human activity to prevent catastrophe. Given the scale of the catastrophe and the dynamics of human nature over a long enough timeline, nuclear power is just a really bad idea.
     
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    The map in the video you indicate is of tsunami height. Weren't you curious as to why the scale is in cm and not mSv?

    I'm afraid you have been misled deliberately by people who hate nuclear power unjustifiably. In reality Japan killed many people frantically evacuating them from areas where there was no threat, a trivial amount died as a result of radiation exposure. The fossil fuels industry kills VASTLY more people than nuclear power, even less than renewable energy per kWh. Nuclear waste is containable, even with worst case disasters like Fukushima and Chernobyl, the rate of exposure there is now significantly less than on a plane travelling over the Pacific or Atlantic oceans. Fish stocks have not seen significant increases in radiation and we are constantly bombareded by much higher levels of radiation in the natural environment.

    Do your research and educate yourself. Nuclear power is the way forward and the environmental lobby is prolonging climate change because they are blindly dedicated to renewables which have proven themselves inadequate.

     
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    Examine that map. It's a map of tsunami height, not of radiation. (for the clue to that, look at the key that tells what the colors mean--the colors are related to tsunami height, not radiation (radiation isn't measured in centimeters)).

    I don't doubt there was/is ocean contamination, but use a real source, not one that is using intentionally misleading data.
     
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