Ga R's who despise Kemp threaten to stay home this November if Trump-backed Perdue loses primary

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  1. Egoboy

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    Originally HUGE Title - Georgia Republicans who despise Gov. Brian Kemp threaten to stay home this November if Trump-backed challenger David Perdue loses Tuesday's primary - massively edited for space

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    The animosity towards Kemp, whom several MAGA Republicans described as a "Judas" and "betrayer" for certifying Joe Biden's win in 2020, is unlikely to affect the outcome of the May 24 primary. But it may hurt Kemp's chances this fall in an anticipated rematch with presumed Democratic nominee Stacey Abrams, the woman he narrowly beat in 2018 — with Trump's support.

    Earlier in the day, an 81-year-old Georgian who said he's voted Republican since 1964, couldn't even bring himself to say Kemp's name or that of Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger.

    "I wouldn't vote for either one of them. They're not Republicans. They're liars," David, who declined to provide his last name, said at Perdue's May 20 event at a rural airfield. He added that Kemp and Raffensperger "did Trump in in Georgia" by not investigating the results to the twice-impeached former president's satisfaction.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/georgia-republicans-despise-gov-brian-162124569.html

    We have several Pa primary threads, but I'll jump the gun on a Georgia primary thread, which is next Tuesday.... and should be entertaining from every angle....

    I really find this sort of talk amazing.... you rarely see this sort of stuff on the D side.... Sure, Bernie and his supporters didn't seem all that enthusiastic about supporting Hillary in 2016, but they weren't that obvious and vocal about it...

    Polls seem pretty clear Kemp is going to win this thing, because as bad as he is, he actually seems to know what being a governor is.... (like signing off on the election every GA county and his SOS certified)

    (P.S. Check out that picture of T**** Voters for Perdue in the URL... I've never seen Donald looking that animated)

    Who wants to have a gentleman's bet T**** de-endorses Purdue before polls open on Tuesday?
     
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    Trump's narcissism already cost them the GA senate races, would be ironic if it costs them the GA Governor race too

    When you put a person above the party, that is what happens
     
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    Good news. Can we get them to shut up completely?
     
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  4. Egoboy

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    I agree with that 98%, but it'll always be anecdotal that T**** cost them the Senate races...

    After all, Biden did win Georgia.... it's possible Georgia would have preferred the 2 D candidates either way... (BTW, we hear about Warnock occasionally, but when was the last time anybody heard from Jon Ossoff?)

    But many had no problem pointing that finger as well....

    https://www.npr.org/2021/01/29/9618...tegists-blame-trump-for-georgia-senate-losses

    Having a D governor with a GQP-dominated State legislature will be interesting (like Pa, Wi, and Mi).... I wonder if Georgia has a veto-proof majority??
     
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    Actually, Biden's bribery promise of "If you elect us, we'll send you $2K" worked as intended. Accept he then reneged on the promise and only sent them $1,600...

     
  6. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One of the best speech snippets I've ever seen from Joe.... they are few and far between....

    I bet some of the people who got $1600 were GOP voters.... are you indicating they shouldn't have because they didn't help elect the 2 D's??
     
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    And in America of all placed, WTH is seriously up with that?
     
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    Great news...
    GA GOP STAY HOME!
     
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    Let me add this:

    “Trump Is Making Georgia All About Himself, And It Could Cost The GOP”


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-making-georgia-himself-could-100005460.html


    This makes me wonder if this couldn’t play out in a few other states where Trump back candidates lost in the primary. Nebraska, North Carolina and Idaho come to mind. There will probably be more states added to the list as time goes by. Which goes to show you, Trump supporters aren’t loyal republicans, they just plain loyal to Trump. This bears watching. This could have a huge influence the midterms.

    Kemp has a huge lead over Purdue if one goes by the polls.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/governor/Georgia.html

    Besides Kemp being a very good governor, a lot of republicans here blame Trump for the lost of their 2 senate seats back in January 2021 with Trump's stay home, your vote won't count campaign. Personally, I believe Trump and his followers are the real RINO's here, Trump and his followers don't give a tinkers damn about the Republican Party or for the ideals of conservatism for that matter. This is and always has been all about Trump and his ultra large ego.
     
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    That would have been a nice post to read BEFORE the Republican Party completely sold out.... Certainly wasn't in 2016, but it was over by 2020. I cannot pinpoint the exact action or date, although that might be helpful to determine at some point.

    Might have been around the release of the Mueller report in 2019, where 480 pages of absolutely deplorable behavior was shrugged off as "No Collusion, No Indictment"?? I dunno...

    Now, short of death or incarceration, I have no earthly clue how you retrieve your party...

    And there are plenty of MAGAS-in-waiting to take his place, so even that may not be enough...

    EDIT - On Georgia, if I don't have to watch the race for Gov, I will be watching the race for SOS.... Raffensperger will never win an award for profiles in courage, but I thought he handled himself well under enormous pressure, especially in that 1/3 phone call
     
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    Oh, they'll show up to vote for trash like this, but hopefully, they'll leave that governor race blank (and possibly even the Senate race blank, cause that football guy is a hot mess) and Georgia can keep baby stepping into the 21st century.....

    SNIP
    "Like Donald Trump, she tells it like it is. You don't have to read her mind," Bikers for Trump founder and rally organizer Chris Cox said to raucous applause as he summoned Greene to the stage to say a few words.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.businessinsider.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-david-perdue-bikers-for-trump-rally-2022-5

    Thank goodness..... nobody wants to go in there....
     
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    As to when, I don’t know exactly. I do know Trump won most of his primaries back in 2016 with 35% of the vote, give or take. He did have the largest faction within the GOP. But 35% is a long way from becoming king of the GOP. Maybe when he upset Hillary Clinton due to a quirk. Everything had to go exactly right for Trump to win, the earth, planets, stars, even the solar systems and the universe all had to align up exactly right. I’d say Hillary lost it, Trump didn’t win it, but that a subject for another day and another thread.


    That 35% soon swelled to around 90%. A lot of that had to due with defending Trump during his impeachments caused by the evil Democrats. To most Republicans, Trump never did anything wrong, it was nothing more than political persecution to them. Revenge for Trump defeating Hillary Clinton.


    I’d estimate the avid Trumpers within the GOP is down to around 55%. A lot less than the 90% a bit more than a year ago, but still a lot more than his original 35%. I was going through several political pundits’ projections as of today. With Biden’s very low approval numbers a red wave should happen in November. But that not the case. At least not yet. Here’s the history of presidents with an approval rating of around 40%.


    Biden 2022 41% ?????? projected loss of 15-18 house seats, gain of 1 senate seat as of 20 May

    Trump 2018 40% lost 44 house seats, 3 senate seats

    Obama 2010 42% lost 63 house seats, 6 senate seats

    G.W. Bush 2006 33% lost 33 house seats, 6 senate seats

    Bill Clinton 1994 42% lost 54 house seats, 9 senate seats


    Those projections are dynamic and change constantly. But if they were to hold, the Republicans will be mighty disappointed while I’d say even with the loss of the House, a victory for the Democrats. Moral only perhaps in that they will lose the house, but they certainly would have beaten the odds. Time will tell. The Republican performing way below expectations, I’d lay that at Trump’s feet.
     
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    Between the GOP Darwin plague and trump cult demands it could be an interesting election seeing Democrats, Independents and the few remaining sane Republicans have seen what the courts are planning to do.
     
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    Good call...
     
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    If you’re talking about the leaked draft on abortion. I believe that’s already baked in. That over the last 50 years since ROE, that those pro-choice have all moved into the Democratic Party, the pro-lifers into the Republican party. It’s been three weeks since the leaked draft on abortion. Here’s how that leaked draft and all the ruckus it created has affected both the generic congressional ballot and Biden’s overall job approval rating. Remember, this is dynamic and changes all the time. The fact we’ve had so little movement over this time period reinforces my theory of the abortion issue being baked in. Inflation is still the elephant in the room.

    2 May 2022 Generic congressional ballot, RCP averages 46.5-42.5, Republican, 538 averages 45.2-42.8 Republican

    9 May 2022 Generic congressional ballot, RCP averages 46.4-43.2 Republican, 538 averages 45.4-42.8 Republican

    16 May 2022 Generic congressional ballot, RCP averages 46.8-43.3 Republican, 538 averages 45.5-43.0 Republican

    22 May 2022 Generic congressional ballot, RCP averages 45.5-43.4 Republican, 538 averages 45.0-42.6 Republican

    The difference at the end of three weeks since the leak, RCP Republicans -1.0, Democrats +0.9. 538 Republicans -0.2, Democrats -0.2.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.html

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/

    We haven’t seen any significant movement on President’s overall job performance since the leak either. I doubt you will. Whatever issue becomes hot for a while probably won’t make a difference. Rising prices tops the list of most important issues, everything else is secondary.

    2 May 2022 Biden’s overall job performance, 41.7% approve, 53.0% disapprove

    9 May 2022 Biden’s overall job performance, 42.3% approve, 52.9% disapprove

    16 May 2022 Biden’s overall job performance, 41.6% approve, 53.4% disapprove

    22 May 2022 Biden’s overall job performance, 41.0% approve, 54.3% disapprove

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html

    Three-week difference, approval -0.7, disapproval +1.4

    Perhaps the best way to look at this is the number of competitive, switchable, at risk house seats between 1 May to 22 May.

    1 May - 29 Democratic seats, 10 Republican seats fell into the at-risk category

    22 May - 36 Democratic seats, 12 Republican seats. An increase of 7 seats for the Democrats over these past 3 weeks and an increase of 2 for the Republicans. If the Democrats hadn’t won the gerrymandering war, creating 10 more democratic leaning districts than the GOP was able to create Republican leaning districts. You might be looking at a red wave election instead of losses of 15-18 seats.


    Conclusion, the leaked draft had no detrimental effect on the Republican Party’s chances of a good midterm election. That the abortion issue is baked in regardless of which side your on or how hot an issue it becomes. Inflation, rising prices, empty shelves in stores remains the number one, hottest issue. Nothing will replace rising prices, thinning to flat to empty wallets. That is unless we get into a hot war with Russia. Then it won't matter, we won't be around to have a midterm.
     
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    Would not be surprised if they actually proverbially cut off their nose to spite their face.
     
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    They were getting the $'s regardless of who would have represented in those seats, however they used the $'s as a bribe to push voters to the polls.
     
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    David Purdue, staying classy to the very end....

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/david-perdue-caps-campaign-georgia-023812285.html

    FWIW, I don't find his statement racist..... moronic and nonsensical?? Sure, but not racist.

    The FUNNY part is that T**** could only be compelled to speak to Purdue supporters by phone....

    What was he doing that was more important than supporting his #1 primary nominee this week??
     
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    From my non-partisan, non-Georgian perspective, either Kemp or Abrams would be a win for Georgia in comparison to any MAGAt candidate such as Purdue. I expect Abrams would do more to help improve the situation of lower-income Georgians, though.
     
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    I think Kemp is going to win along with Raff because in Georgia you can vote in any party’s primary and because Abrams is unopposed, a lot of the Dems will vote the Republican primary and put Kemp and Raff back in because they know they’re sure losers in November.
     
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    That would be a rematch from 2018, when the MAGA wasn't as bad as it is now....

    Was a helluva close race.. 55K votes

    Likely a race that ends in recount range and happily, the SOS is NOT the candidate this time...

    Get out the vote, Georgia! In November for sure, but just enough to put Purdue back into retirement now...
     
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    You have that 100% backwards.... if Dems wanted to get the best candidate for Stacey to face, they'd be out for Purdue in large numbers....

    Everybody says he's a complete dishrag, from fund raising, to speeches, to basic desire to even have the job....
     
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    Well to be consistent with the conspiracy mindset - no matter what happens it proves fraud. Goalposts get moved accordingly
     
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    From a conservative standpoint, I see no reason why any Republican voter should have a problem with Kemp. It's only Trump and his ego that have a problem with Kemp, and the chittering masses that eat up Trump's words. All based on Kemp's refusal to entertain Trump's election fraud fantasy to the extent that he demanded.
     
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    Trump wanted to sign an even bigger check:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trump-idUKKBN28X01V

    So, it's not vote buying when Trump signs the check, but only vote buying when a Dem does it? Okay....

    As to the OP: Purdue is an absolute tool. He couldn't help himself with some derogatory comments about Abrams while campaigning. although I think those kind of comments are red meat for the MAGA crowd.

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...d-perdue-stacey-abrams-comments-ac360-vpx.cnn
     

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