GAY TEACHER READS HOMOSEXUAL STORY TO 3RD GRADERS

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  1. dairyair

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    I believe one person has already told us that one God, Buddah. How can there be more than 'One' God. There can't.
    So, I'll go with there is more than 1, and it's in the minds of each person.
    Most loving gods don't torment their creation for eternity. They don't wipe the face of the earth clean but for ark things. Especially when that particular god, knew all this before the 1st thing created. Since most believe this particular god is also omniscient.
     
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    I didn't ask that, I don't think the author knows what 'empirical' means.
     
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    "Foist?" How about offer up, and as adamantly as I choose?
    People hear a myriad of sales pitches, voices telling you what you need or what is wrong with you, violent opposition a hundred times a day and just accept it. But if someone boldly states who God is and what He is saying, then somehow people get offended. That sounds like personal insecurity to me. But if they can correct me if I am wrong as harshly as they please, I won't mind.
     
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    I said, foist in a legalistic way. I didn't say you don't have a right to speak your mind. You certainly can say anything you want. Proselytize 'til the cows come home.
     
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    When some journalist asked Pope Benedict XVI a similar question, he responded to the effect --- “there are a thousand books and a thousand saints and a hundred miracles that answer that question if you really cared, but now you want it all evidenced in a brief answer or you will go no further.”

    Miracles are empirical evidence to answer yours and the other poster’s question. Fatima, the Shroud, Guadalupe, Mexico, Akita, Japan, Zeitoun, Egypt, the manifestation of the devil during Catholic exorcisms, and on --- they are the proof you demand.
     
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    Actually, no. A medical power of attorney actually overrides the marital status of medical decision making, just as the marital status overrides the blood family status.

    Your solution basically is to put a large work and financial burden on anyone who wants to make a relationship like a current legal marriage. Now I am all for allowing for legal exceptions to the basic model and we have plenty of those already allowed legally, such as the medical power of attorney. But there is no need to ditch the legal marriage system. Only ensure that the legal marriage is accessible to all consenting adults.
     
  7. Matt84

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    And I'm sure you have proof of this claim..........
     
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    In the context of it's use it simply means a lifestyle that is outside the standard, i.e. alternative. Additionally, yes one always chooses a lifestyle. Even homosexuals can choose to lead a heterosexual lifestyle, and vice versa. In fact, many homosexuals did choose to live a heterosexual lifestyle as a means to stay hidden. People don't choose what their attractions are, but they do choose what to do about them. Hence they do choose their lifestyle.
     
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    Well, fine. Then you can transfer my response to the endless whiners who say "quit shoving your religion down our throats."
    No one is 'shoving' any more than the endless ads on TV you stare at. Again, if they are so easily offended, they are the insecure ones.
     
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    I can post links to Islam, Judaism, and Hindu all making similar claims. If all it took was URL links , this question would have been answered. Sorry, got to do better.
     
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    Blacks make up what percentage of all people? Why did they have to push so hard? Interracial couples make up what percentage of all people? Why did they have to push so hard?
     
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    Whether you can or can not doesn't change the fact what I posted is not of supernatural origin. Start with disproving that if you think there is no God.

    Only then will I be glad to challenge you as to which one.
     
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    Good for you. You follow your God and your set of rules on what is and isn't sinful, and we'll follow the ones we do . That's the great thing about this country. No one forcing you to follow anyone else religion.
     
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    The burden of proof is on you. I haven't stated whether it/he/she exists or not. I just asked you to prove your claim. If I had made I claim, I'd have to back it up, but I didn't make a claim on the existence of a higher power.
     
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    Especially since those are subjective values as is. After all the color pink and high heels were once very masculine.
     
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    Most 'gods' don't send their only Son to be tortured and crucified for the sins of the humans He created either. There must be some virtue in suffering, but the pride of man cannot get beyond his own way of demanding how God should handle things. For God to have created mankind and the universe, one should take it for granted God's mind is incalculably more advanced than man. He said 'My ways are not your Ways,' and yet instead of accepting that which has been revealed including the path for eternal life, man chooses to remain obstinate because he does not have all he wants here and now. Like the Virgin Mary said: pride is the cancer of the soul.
     
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    The events I listed are the empirical evidence for the presence of a supernatural being or manifestation. Factual observed evidence that science cannot explain how it occurred nor can nature. So who can say at that point no evidence for God, He gave it.

    Now as to whether that god is Jesus or not is only to be argued once you admit the supernatural must be real.
     
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    Fair enough.

    So your conclusion on the matter is Bible based?
     
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    Not really.
    My conclusion on the matter is that given all I now know and all of the documented miracles that point to Jesus Christ, that is what makes me certain. From that it logically follows the Bible is most likely a pretty good source for what God wants of us, so I tend to find it also quite reliable.
     
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    I could apply this to so many who are so easily offended by events such as the topic of this thread.
     
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    Offended by actions, not beliefs, in that case.

    But one can still apply the insecurity to a lot of Christians as well. Many live in more hope than faith assurance, and hence are probably easily offended too.
     
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    Exactly the device used by despots (and those who would control), since time began.

    Tell them it's 'prideful' to question authority.

    I have no idea why people still fall for this psych 101 stuff.
     
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    This. Besides, ordinary day to day life in 2017 exposes kids to the rich tapestry.

    Schools cannot add anything to "be kind to your fellow humans" without also adding bias. As soon as schools start proscribing a list of 'people to be kind to', they've engaged in bias.
     
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    Actually, the statistically higher rate of marital longevity present in 'no sex before marriage' couples has nothing to do with religion. It's a well understood function of reducing drivers of dissatisfaction. The more comparisons you have, the less likely you are to be able to reach contentment.
     

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