Gee Wally.. Why would NASA ever lie?

No,Scott/cosmored/fatfreddy88/david c,the only thing that's crushing' is your blatant dishonesty..

 

The viewers can judge for themselves.
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979

You have the attitude that you debunked the flag anomaly theory but you haven't.
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/362999-air-caused-flag-move-so-obviously-studio.html

The viewers can judge for themselves.

 

The viewers? Where are all these viewers - coming in to this thread and agreeing with you? Never happens does it. No matter where you spread your spam, you are ridiculed, debunked, out argued or all three. You have no knowledge of any of this, all you do is paste up your rubbish links, written by idiots that you agree with no matter what. As a truther you suck.

There is nothing to debunk. Your claim of air never had any scientific credence in the first place. I have put up images showing the action of air in a wind tunnel, yet here you are 6-7 years on, making the same claims that a wall of air moved a flag. You deny how far away when it is blatantly obvious it is several feet at least. As I said, as a truther, you suck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kalT4NGdDsk&list=PL5B072595E7EC7210

http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/apollo-15-flag.html

 

You claimed flaws, so give us a reader's digest version of them. Support what you say.....

 

I'd be interested in your opinion of the following

[video]https://youtu.be/CkRnMYBJeCc[/video]

Take a look at the picture The Opportunity Rover took in 2007 0f Cape St. Vincent on Mars ,it’s the only photo needed to prove the former or present existence of a humanoid presence on Mars. The highlights are a 12 meter Egyptian Style statue, a chain hoist rigging holding some material, and an excavated hole with a pile of dirt next to it, a pretty good trick for the wind. The video is titled “St Vincent 3-26-13 HD The Most Important Photo Ever Taken” on youtube. Also go to whatsupinthesky37on YT for a very good compilation of the best Martian anomalies. Scientist in recent months have reported that Mars was much more Earth-like in the past than they thought, the sky on Mars is blue and has a thicker atmosphere than originally thought, much of Mars was once covered by Mile-Deep oceans, the soil on Mars has been found to contain 2% water and contains organic matter and recently they've discovered running water on Mars, all of which gives even more credibility to the obvious humanoid made objects in this photo.
. WHY DOES NASA KEEP LYING TO US: READ ON THIS IS THE REASON !

Proposed Studies on the Implications of Peaceful Space Activities for Human Affairs, often referred to as "the Brookings Report," was a 1960 report commissioned by NASA and created by the Brookings Institution in collaboration with NASA's Committee on Long-Range Studies. It was submitted to the House Committee on Science and Astronautics of the United States House of Representatives in the 87th United States Congress on April 18, 1961.[1] It was entered into the Congressional Record and can be found in any library possessing the Congressional Record for that year.
The report has become noted for one short section titled, "The implications of a discovery of extraterrestrial life," which examines the potential implications of such a discovery on public attitudes and values. The section briefly considers possible public reactions to some possible scenarios for the discovery of extraterrestrial life, stressing a need for further research in this area. It recommends continuing studies to determine the likely social impact of such a discovery and its effects on public attitudes, including study of the question of how leadership should handle information about such a discovery and under what circumstances leaders might or might not find it advisable to withhold such information from the public.
While not specifically recommending a cover-up of evidence of extraterrestrial life, Proposed Studies on the Implications of Peaceful Space Activities for Human Affairs does suggest that contact with intelligent extraterrestrial life (or strong evidence of its reality) could have a disruptive effect on human societies. Moreover, it does mention the possibility that leadership might wish to withhold evidence of extraterrestrial life from the public under some conditions

I'm going to add what another poster "Dr. Doom" added to one of my post on Yahoo .
""In other words. its better to withhold information and keep the populations in the dark so as to keep them under control and in their place for maintaining the status quo. For any disruptions within that controlled system could seriously jeopardize those leaders positions of authority and control of those masses that affords them lives of luxury and ease at the expense of those masses.... its all about who gains and who loses if and when such information or truths are revealed. Knowledge is indeed power."

 

It is not attitude it is fact.

All of your claims have been debunked and the viewers agree with me

 

I liked the way the US flag was waving in the wind, I mean vacuum, on the moon in 1969!

 

It wasn't 'waving'

 

CTs use certain video clips and guide your perception of them by telling you what to think, often making false assumptions, such as the idea that the flag absolutely could not have moved any other way in the clip they show you.

In fact, the first issue with conspiracy theorists is their hubris in assuming they understand a foreign environment like the lunar surface well enough to comment intelligently on what they're seeing in a video clip or a photograph. So often these people wouldn't be qualified to comment about the items they end up commenting about even in a terrestrial setting, e.g. when they rail on about how shadows and lighting appear to behave in Apollo imagery.

I've seen one where the flag appeared to move very slightly right as an astronaut passed it. It was barely perceptible but might have been real movement. If it was, then all possibilities have to be considered, such as a light brushing of the flag by the astronaut's suit (which was certainly very bulky, especially when out in the lunar vacuum), or even magnetic attraction or repulsion.

Returning to issues of lighting and shadows, amateurs will often claim that shadows appearing to point different directions indicates multiple light sources, but what they're citing are down-sun images in which the shadows do this:

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a12/AS12-46-6752.jpg

Those who complain about this have apparently never just stood facing away from the sun and looked at how shadows appear to fall from that vantage. And hey, that's not surprising. It's not something people pay attention to most of the time. But here it is on Earth:



You can also see that "hot spot" lighting effect on the ground in both images, again something people wouldn't normally notice while outside doing normal outdoor activities, but something an internet kook will pick up on when examining a photograph for any hint of a "hoax."

Returning to the flag, whether it was brushed or affected by a magnetic field, or whether it was something else entirely, such as the regolith transferring the energy of the astronaut's footfalls to the flagpole and thereby ultimately to the flag itself, I'm confident it wasn't because the whole thing was a big ol' fraud perpetrated on Earth after all. That is the absolutely least plausible explanation in light of the evidence. In fact, the evidence makes the entire idea of those landings being hoaxed plain absurd, but internet kooks tend not to be aware of it, mainly because they don't even go looking for it! They just read the crap that agrees with their thinking.

Try looking up more Apollo video featuring the flag. You can see it not move in the slightest for as long as it's left alone, which actually would be pretty unlikely on earth precisely because of air movements. Can the pro-hoax crowd even agree on where this alleged hoax was carried out? Was it outdoors or in a sealed environment? Because you can see from the thousands of Apollo photos (including numerous 360 degree pans!) that they were hopping and, in later missions driving, around in a massive space that no structure could contain and which, if one so large did exist, could not prevent air movements from upsetting a flag constantly.

Engage your brain instead of teaming up with vocal morons who will only make a fool of you by association.

 

Nor is there a vacuum on the moon.

 

Give me a break.
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/362999-air-caused-flag-move-so-obviously-studio.html

 

It was NOT waving,period

 

If you paid attention to the images where it is " waving " you will note that the flag or the staff it is attached to is being touched by the astronauts. The movement is caused by inertia which happens in a vacuum or any where else.

 

I understand that. I was just pointing out the lunar surface is not a vacuum.

 

It was moving because of inertia as astronauts touched the flag or the staff this happens in a vacuum or anywhere else

 

You're talking about some different footage. I'm referring to this footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU
(2:36 time mark)

 

Your obsession with that clip is only matched by your inability to understand alternatives to your impossible conclusion!

http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/apollo-15-flag.html

 

There's not much you can do to obfuscate this anomaly. It's simply too clear.

(post #62)
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=7&p=1064053446#post1064053446

 

Sorry the astronaut clearly caused the movement in that video as any first grader can see when viewing it.

You have zero evidence.

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Yes it is simply too clear. The astronaut walked from frame left to frame right BETWEEN the flag and the camera.

His left shoulder touched the flag.

Beats you every time and any grade schooler can see how wrong you are and the video proves it.

 

Gee, you use that obfuscate word a heck of a lot, I'm guessing you don't know what it means.

Air could not possibly have moved the flag like that, anyone with a simple grasp of wave dynamics would know this. To obfuscate implies that you have a case that needs it - you don't. You only have repetition in the hope that nobody responds to your spam.

There are 4 possibilities for the initial small movement and one certainty for the subsequent swaying. Ground vibration, kicked regolith that strikes the flagpole, static electricity and a camera anomaly caused by the crt blooming.

The certainty is that his arm brushed it as he passed and an additional certainty is that air could not under any circumstances have caused this. What level of sadness you must have in your life to repeat the same crap on hundreds of forums over 7 years.

 

I am no fan of government, NASA can and does lie, in fact it lied about every launch in the early years until at least 1964. I dont trust government most of the police or my sister, the pope or Pat Roberson. I don't trust anyone but me really. I do love God and I even like science. The reason I say all that is because, and with all due respect, I am going to say I dont think the moon landing was faked. Too many reasons too many eyes on it too many years gone by, too much evidence to rebut the conspiracy theorists. From the web rebutting flag fluttering;

The flag looks like it's "waving" because the horizontal pole that runs along the top of the flag got stuck part way out. This meant that the flag didn't "unfurl" fully and is hanging like a curtain rather than being stretched flat as was the original intention.

The pole was also rotated several times during the planting process before Armstrong and Aldrin took the photo so any movement is due to simple inertia - (Source). The lack of atmosphere on the moon means that there's no air resistance to slow down the flapping so it will last a lot longer than on Earth (assuming still air).

~reva~

 

Are you talking about the movement at the 2:36 time mark of this clip?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU

Have you read this thread?
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/362999-air-caused-flag-move-so-obviously-studio.html

 

In every video it is clear the flag moved due to manipulation by the astronauts.

 

You are like a stuck record that doesn't move for 7 years.

http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/apollo-15-flag.html

Your spam debunked and largely ignored.

In the day and age where every single person on the planet has a cell phone or access to one, film yourself "trotting by a piece of fabric" and upload it to the internet.

We all await your bombshell with baited breath.

 

Viewers...

Please read the post that comes after that one (post #...
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&p=1064027180#post1064027180

...and then read post #12.