gender fairness? I have an idea

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  1. CFM

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    We don't have a draft so I assume you're addressing the selective service program. Why, if women claim they want to be treated equally to men, aren't women pushing and pushing for having to do that like men?
     
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    Unless if they're pregnant.
     
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    Being forced to give birth is a punishment.

    Having sex isn't a crime and deserves no punishment.

    Consent to one act (sex) is not a consent to any other act (more sex, pregnancy, being robbed or beaten)


    There is no draft.....and women have served VOLUNTARILY throughout our history....and where are those who claim women shouldn't be in combat? Why draft someone who isn't allowed in combat?


    ...and women HAVE been in combat, were killed, and maimed and earned medals just like men did throughout our history....


    Seems the hypocrites need to straighten out their hilarious stories.


    And for the record , I am against the draft for anyone....
     
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    Tell that to those who scream women shouldn't be allowed in combat(even if they already are).

    I don't believe anyone should be drafted so men should fight to be equal by ending the draft :)
     
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    If you really want equality of the sexes MEN should fight to end the draft...…..then women and men would be equal.....
     
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    Remember it’s men who made that decision, women are the homemakers raising the children. I think there should be a service for everyone.
     
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    Consent to one act that produces the result of the other means they are related whether that was the intention or not.

    Never said there was a draft. However, males have to sign up for selective service at age 18. Where are all the females that claim they're being denied equal treatment pushing to have to do the same? If they want to be equal, it applies responsibilities as well as benefits.
     
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    Where are all the women demanding equal benefits demanding they have equal responsibility such as signing up for selective service? The ones that want the goodies of equality don't want the responsibility that goes along with it.
     
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    Ask the men who set the rules. It wasn’t women who decided they shouldn’t sign up , it was men. Why would we fight to sign up......we are raising the soldiers ....
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Being forced to give birth is a punishment.

    Having sex isn't a crime and deserves no punishment.

    Consent to one act (sex) is not a consent to any other act (more sex, pregnancy, being robbed or beaten)




    There is no draft.....and women have served VOLUNTARILY throughout our history....and where are those who claim women shouldn't be in combat? Why draft someone who isn't allowed in combat?


    ...and women HAVE been in combat, were killed, and maimed and earned medals just like men did throughout our history....


    Seems the hypocrites need to straighten out their hilarious stories.


    And for the record , I am against the draft for anyone....





    That was answered in the post of mine you quoted and no matter how many times you repeat your garbage I will answer with the same post since it's correct and YOU can NEVER refute one word of my posts :)


    ...and your posts ring pretty phony since in one area (abortion) you want to take away women's rights and here you DEMAND they get treated the same as men.....so you can see how easy it is to see your real motives and true feelings about women......
     
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    Except when you abort them. Hence the reason for this thread.
     
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    Luckily there’s enough soldiers....
     
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    The idea is to make things more equal not less
     
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    Some people aren’t smart enough to realize that equal does not mean the same.
     
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    For trying to dodge the draft?
    Great idea.
     
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    Renee said:
    It wasn’t women who decided they shouldn’t sign up , it was men. Why would we fight to sign up......we are raising the soldiers ....


    STILL can't address posts...that wasn't answer to what that poster wrote.


    NOW, explain why you have NO problem taking away women's rights but then turn around and insist they do something because men have been conned into it?


    And how your ignoring what women have done in and for the military VOLUNTARILLY is NOT Anti-Troops or Anti-American???

    Explain that.....
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Being forced to give birth is a punishment.




    Here ya go again, refusing to address what's written in a post you quoted.....that is so odd....
     
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    DO please prove that NO women serve in the armed forces.....
    waiting !!!!


    They do and do so VOLUNTARILLY....even knowing they won't get the same promotions and benefits the men do....but may suffer the same CONSEQUENCES....


    They are so much braver than those forced to serve....
     
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    Show me where women have to sign up for selective service like the men to which they want to be treated equally?
     
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    They dont sign up for the draft because they don’t have to. Equal doesn’t mean the same. Men sign up for the draft, women take care of the family
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    DO please prove that NO women serve in the armed forces.....waiting !!!!


    They do and do so VOLUNTARILLY....even knowing they won't get the same promotions and benefits the men do....but may suffer the same CONSEQUENCES....


    They are so much braver than those forced to serve....




    Why should they? The military doesn't treat them equally.
     
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    Never said women don’t serve. Said women aren’t expected to do what men are expected to do. Is that why you claim to be a woman?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    DO please prove that NO women serve in the armed forces.....waiting !!!!


    They do and do so VOLUNTARILLY....even knowing they won't get the same promotions and benefits the men do....but may suffer the same CONSEQUENCES....


    They are so much braver than those forced to serve....






    Why should they? The military doesn't treat them equally.


    No the military does not expect women to get promoted like men do...in fact it's harder for women to get promoted...so when they do , it's a much bigger accomplishment than when a man gets promoted :)


    Your inane comment about me "claiming" to be a woman is just that, inane and irrelevant.


    And you didn't refute one word of the post of mine you quoted :)
     
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    Gender fairness? This "list" idea of yours is kinda bad, OP. I'm all for choice on a plethora of issues.

    IMO, legally allow both men and women to opt out of child support if they do not want to take care of the child(depending on who won the child custody case in court if there was one).

    Opt out? You lose any and all rights including visitation rights if you do. That IMO is fair.
     
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    Why should a mother or a father be able to opt out of responsibility for their own child? Sounds like you don’t support children’s well being
     
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