General Milley Commits Treason

trump. perfectly capable of taking the world down before admitting that he was not the most potent alpha male ever.

i'm not sure that one person has that authority or if it is a convenient fiction. on my ship i was one of the 2 keyholders required to access nuclear weapons. 2 persons are required for anything nuclear.

 

I'm not asking you to psychoanalyze him. I'm asking if the POTUS can't just push a button and launch nuclear weapons (as you explained earlier) it would appear Milley didn't need to take this course of action. The only thing I can think of is if he was concerned that all the people on the National Command Authority would just rubber stamp a directive from Trump to launch.

The whole thing just seems bizarre. It doesn't make sense.

 

Oh Really, well Trump is a traitor, and you love him.

Spare us the lecture.

 

That's completely insane, even for him. I wonder, if he was that bad behind the scenes (or in front of us) why didn't they try to 25th him?

That eases my nerves a bit. Thanks, Ramp.

 

You really should pay attention. Milley said no such thing.

He pulled a Schlesinger, so he gets a Mulligan.

Besides, you misquoted him. He said don't act on any presidential nuke order until he is consulted, because Trump was trying to end run the chain of command, which what James Schlesinger did in 1974, and no one back then accused him of treason.

It's like this, AARguy, as chairman of the Joint Chiefs, he's a senior military advisor, and it's within his right to be party to the conversation on a nuke order, because before such an order would be made by a COMPETENT president, he should be consulted. He is just saying, if he is not consulted, that's incompetence, and do we want incompetence ordering a nuclear attack?

Is that what you want?

he said don't act until he is consulted, and that is his right, his right to be party to the conversation before something as grave and earth shaking as a nuclear attack.

He is a national hero, because there was clear evidence, like Nixon in his final hours, Trump was becoming unglued.

You want some kind of unhinged mofo launching attacks or Iran, or China?

Are you ****ing crazy? Say it isn't so.

 

Milley has "issues"... of course it doesn't make sense.

 

There was justified concern that Trump would try to act unilaterally.

New Woodward/Costa book: Trump secret memo ordering withdrawal from Afghanistan blindsided national security team

Washington (CNN)Just eight days after the 2020 election, then-President Donald Trump was so determined to end the war in Afghanistan during his presidency that he secretly signed a memo to withdraw all troops by January 15, 2021, according to a new book, "Peril," from journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa.

The November 11 memo, according to the authors, had been secretly drafted by two Trump loyalists and never went through the normal process for a military directive -- the secretary of defense, national security adviser and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs had all never seen it. Unpredictable, impulsive, Trump had done an end run around his whole national security team.

In a remarkable scene, the authors write, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley, newly appointed acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller and his new chief of staff Kash Patel were all blindsided when the memo arrived at the Pentagon.

... https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/14/politics/woodward-costa-book-trump-afghanistan-memo/index.html​

 

read the book

 

Why? Because Pence is the most sycophant veep in history, that's why.

the only thing that kept him from complying with Trump's request to Pence to get him to not certify the election was his conversation with former veep , Dan Quayle, who told him, numerous times that it would be unconstitutional if he did what Trump wanted, that is it positively impossible for him to do it, that doing so would throw the US into a constitutional crisis.

 

Now I know you are not paying attention. the book isn't out yet.

So, show me the quote? Surely you can find it on the net, somewhere.

 

There was a directive to attack Iran, to which the secretary of defense, the national security advisor, were unaware of.

That meant that Trump was trying to BYPASS the normal chain of command and go lower on the chain by those who might act on his command to a crazy directive which would clearly not be in America's interest, which would cause all sorts of consequences.

Milley, who became aware of the memo, talked Trump out of it.

That is why he did what he did, because if Trump did that, he's perfectly capable of doing crazy **** in crazy ways.

 

The most frightening thing is all the Trumpers here who are indicating that the most important thing is that TRUMP MUST BE OBEYED, even if it involves the end of all life known.

Talk about dangerous cults.

 

How in the heck do you know about such obviously classified memos? Methinks that memo originated in DNC HQ.

 

Its easy to support a President like Trump that lowered mt taxes, secured our borders, got our pride back with Americans going into space on American rockets, who supported the 2d Amendment, who clobbered ISIS and did so much more. He never required OBEDIENCE about anything. Unlike Biden who demandsblind OBEDIENCE from masks to vaccines and social media censorship to Critical Race Theory.

 

the left was not the ones that supported Trump

 

yep, get Trump under oath, see f he was really a threat

 

Trump never asked me to obey in any way. He just lowered my taxes, clobbered ISIS, got Americans back in space on American rockets,secured our borders, supported our police, halted North Korea nuke testing, got signed peace accords in the Middle East and so much more.
Its Biden that demands we obey... from masks to stifling free speech on social media and from getting vaccinated to teaching racist Critical Race Theory to our kids.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ations-in-the-new-woodward-costa-book.592107/

 

He tried to bypass all that

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ations-in-the-new-woodward-costa-book.592107/

 

increased deficit by 3.9Trillion. SALT punished blue states.
Seems Trump is only interested in helping states that voted for him. Not a very good president.

Trump’s claims of conquering “almost 100% [of the Islamic State] … since our election” are false. Objective history records that Obama launched and oversaw much of the victorious war that the current president claims for himself.
https://theconversation.com/who-really-defeated-the-islamic-state-obama-or-trump-148066

Yeah, billionaires who aren't paying taxes, leaving the bill for the rest of us, can afford to launch themselves and their buddies into space.

Wonderful.

Separated some 2000 kids from their parents with such sloppy bookkeeping their parents couldn't be found.

the crime? Parents committed a class B misdemeanor. That's child abuse.

Who doesn't?

Trump gave KJU the international legitimacy he craved with the Photo OP, something that no president in history would have done, and he acquiesced to NK by ending our military tests in the region, seen as vital to US Military readiness. Also , they are continuing with short range missle tests, and have already tested an ICMB.

But they argue that Trump has squandered the opportunity by giving Kim the international legitimacy he craves and by halting major joint military exercises between the United States and South Korea that Kim views as a threat.

“It’s going to be a real heavy lift to get us back to a place where we’re actually advancing interests,” said Antony Blinken, Biden’s foreign policy advisor, who served in several top positions in the Obama administration

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-08-24/north-korea-trump-foreign-policy

Deals signed between non warring nations are not 'peace accords' they are trade and reciprocal agreements. IN short, they are low hanging fruit.
Real peace accords are difficult, take much effort, much diplomacy and real skill, none of the talents that Trump possesses.

If you want an example of bona fide peace accords, those would be the ones negotiated by Carter and Clinton.
https://www.history.com/news/jimmy-carter-camp-david-accords-egypt-israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clinton_Parameters

Drivel.

 

Yeah for telling people to go peacefully protest… may as well line up every democrat too

 

No, Benedict Donald was crazy.

Milley went outside the chain of command to protect the Constitution he's sworn to defend. I see his retirement in the near future; unfortunately. We can only hope someone out of the same mold replaces him.

 

You OBVIOUSLY do NOT understand the CONCEPT of MUTUALLY assured DESTRUCTION!

If YOUR biggest *LOSER* launched a nuclear strike against China then IF you survived you would be eating roaches in the glowing rubble that once was America.

That is HOW it works.

Gen Milley swore an OATH to DEFEND our nation from ENEMIES both foreign and DOMESTIC!

YOUR biggest *LOSER* and his Domestic Terrorist supporters were a DIRECT THREAT to our elected government on Jan 6th.

Gen Milley took the appropriate action to REDUCE the THREAT LEVEL to our nation CAUSED entirely by YOUR biggest *LOSER*.

The TREASON was INCITED by YOUR biggest *LOSER*!

FACTS matter!

 

By conspiring with a foreign country? The constitution does say something about that. It has nothing to do with protecting it. If he did this he is a traitor