Geology, physics, high tides question.

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Will tides be up by 4.5 meters in some places?

  1. No.... they will only rise by one foot, 30 cms.

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  2. Tides will be higher in places by at most 5X.

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  3. Tides will be up but only about 10X.

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  4. Yes... tides will be up by 15X in a few places.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One effective way to organize an
    effective opening gambit against rising ocean levels...... is to combine
    this goal with assisting the nations of Jordan and Israel to achieve a whole
    new level of economic cooperation...........


    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...s-p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.html
    Please pray or meditate on Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal?
    .....
    Several years ago I was led to read a book again about a near death experiencer who was shown that Jordan and Israel would become like one nation…. I wonder if this is true and if it would be according to the will of God for this to happen soon?


    ….…
    …
    Dannion Brinkley:
    .....................
    My guess on the new colour for Jordan would be GREEN…. as Isaiah 35 is fulfilled and the deserts of Jordan would be turned green through a great increase in desalination of ocean water……. Not to mention the blessing of God!

    http://saharaforestproject.com/projects/jordan.html

    Sahara Forest Project
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It has been estimated the 1/3 of the rise is due to pumping out ground water. Desalinization will not lower levels as it ends up back in the sea.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Eventually.... yes......

    but one of the goals of The Petra Project is to prevent the Dead Sea from drying up.......


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...es-Huge-chasms-appearing-region-rate-day.html

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True... but would the 15X multiplier apply to whatever rise in ocean levels were to occur?
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am putting it in front of the M. L. A. for Pugwash, that is officially
    in the Guinness Book of World Records where the world's highest tides
    hit.


    Jamie Baillie, Nova Scotia, Israel and Jordan.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/jamie-baillie-nova-scotia-israel-and-jordan.506627/


     
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    That is exactly what I was thinking........
    which means that if average ocean levels were to rise by one foot/ thirty centimeters,
    there could well be a 4.5 meter higher tide during exceptionally high tides and storm surges.

    (Apparently day to day tides are not up by 15X - 17X ...... this only happens on occasion).
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If two hundred million cubic meters of ocean water are taken from the Mediterranean Sea to the Dead Sea annually through The Petra Project..... or something similar........
    then it could take a number of months before that H2O ends up back in the ocean.

    Water tables all around the world are down.

    Underground cisterns are emptying..... and could theoretically be filled again.



    Sigmund Ivarsson's Petra Project for Israel, Jordan and The Palestinians.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...or-israel-jordan-and-the-palestinians.451496/
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    PSSSST - its always dem dam jooooooz.

    you and yours are hilarious.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would like an answer on this that is fit to put in front of my Member of Parliament and the M.L.A. for the area that experiences the world's highest tides?

    My question is one of physics.......
    not politics.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/jamie-baillie-nova-scotia-israel-and-jordan.506627/

    Jamie Baillie, Nova Scotia, Israel and Jordan.


    ......
    "As you know extremely well........ in parts of your riding the difference from low tide to high tide is around FIFTEEN
    meters.

    My question is.......... if a significant amount of cracking and sliding of ice on the West Antarctic
    Ice Sheet were to occur...... and if average ocean levels were to rise by one meter...... would the
    difference along part of the Bay of Fundy continue to have a FACTOR OF 15 X?

    Would a one meter rise in average ocean levels translate into another fifteen meters added to high tide
    due to the funneling effect that the Bay of Fundy has on the tidal waters as it comes in??????? Edit.....(during exceptionally high tides and storm surges...... because the day to day multiplier is not that high)......

    I don't know the answer to this question.

    I am hoping that there is some other factor that would lessen the
    multiplier effect on high tides in parts of your riding........... but the
    question needs to be asked...... because my online friend Mr. Carl Cantrell
    gave me an alternative theory on how to address climate stabilization that
    has the side benefit of also directly addressing the threat of rising ocean levels."
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I quoted you again in full over here:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...tia-israel-and-jordan.506627/#post-1067670489



    I put some emphasis on the sentence that I felt actually answered my original question.
     
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    AboveAlpha gives us a number in post #19 here.......
    4.3 Trillion..........
    that needs to be dealt with..... and turning the deserts of the nation of Jordan green
    through large scale desalination of ocean water is a good way to invest those
    floating petro-dollars in such a way that should benefit 99.9 percent of humans.

    (This takes you to post #18... so just scroll down one more post):

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...tia-israel-and-jordan.506627/#post-1067670489
     
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    Deserts are already greening. Thank CO2.
     
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    Your poll sucks.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good point... the situation along the Bay of Fundy for the State of Maine and the provinces of
    New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, Canada, are unique......... and are not quite relevant to very many other
    coastal regions hardly anywhere else on earth.
     
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    Thank you for this heads up.

    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Well-Known Member

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    No, it isn't. Stop making things up.

    And if the deserts are greening as you claim, and are thanking CO2 levels, then you are defeating your own position. :rolleyes:
     
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    Greening has nothing to do with known land subsidence.
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Well-Known Member

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    So now you are just spouting gibberish. Well, that's about all you ever post.

    Or are you incapable of understanding the point?
     
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    LOL, your denial and comment pretty much prove you have no clue what you are talking about.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True... .I finally figured out how to add images to a discussion.......

    http://www.bayoffundy.com/about/highest-tides/
    BAY OF FUNDY TIDES: THE HIGHEST TIDES IN THE WORLD!



    [​IMG]
     
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    Yes you did. Too bad the image is broken. :party:
     
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    If I am not incorrect... the image does a great job of explaining how a part of the Bay of Fundy
    experiences low tide to high tide of 6 meters
    another area experiences 7 meters.....
    another area 8 meters...
    another are 9 meters......
    all the way up to fifteen meters in one or two areas........

    Because the gravitational pull of the moon is pulling that water into a more and more narrow area......
    the water piles up on top of itself.......... and piles up on top of itself........ more and more and more until
    it hits land........
     
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    AboveAlpha gave me some statements that I really needed to
    get some people thinking about all this in a new way... I quoted him right to where
    I needed his statements most:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-nova-scotia-israel-and-jordan.506627/page-3

    Jamie Baillie, Nova Scotia, Israel and Jordan.

    ...
     
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    I just asked a well informed buddy at work today and he said that yes...........
    if average ocean levels were to rise by one foot, then from Truro, Nova Scotia, Canada to Pugwash, N. S., ........ there should be a rise of about twelve to fifteen feet in average high tide levels......... on a daily basis.......
     
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    I have made some friends in the CIA.....
    through this forum:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-the-office-of-potus-as-early-as-2016.397835/
     

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