George Zimmerman - "I am a victim"

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  1. ErikBEggs

    ErikBEggs New Member

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    Because the prosecution tried him for murder and added manslaughter...
     
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    No it is not whatever. Stalking is definded by law and as Margot found out when she attempted to make that phony assertion Zimmerman did NOT commit a stalking.

    No it does not but trying to paint it as one shows the fallacious nonsense the Martin defenders will attempt to pass as fact.

    What do concerned citizens and watch people do? They watch and observe and yes sometimes try to get a better vantage point. The NEN dispatcher 4 times made request of Zimmerman to keep and eye on the person and let them know what he did, in the heat of the moment Zimmerman's actions were perfectly reasonable and acceptable.
     
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    When black teenagers stop being killed by overzealous white gun-toting idiots in Florida, we will shut up.
     
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    Which would not preclude charging him with stalking in addition to the other charges.

    But I will give you the same challenge I gave Margot after she made the same assertion. Post the Florida stalking law and explain how Zimmerman violated it that night.
     
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    "...... we don't need you to do that."
     
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    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I used to smoke weed, and I've never murdered anyone.

    You used the word "ARE" when you should have used "OUR".

    You know what?....your post is so retarded I'm probably just wasting my time. Notice how I called your post retarded, and not you?
     
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    HUGE difference.... stalking is the CONTINUED act of following

    so, you continuing to try and dismiss the difference simply to meet your agenda, (beit because you are either a race-baiter and/or gun hater), you are being dishonest in suggesting that they are both the same.....

    in FL, you are allowed to have a concealed weapon. That does not change the legal definition of what is/is not stalking.


    So unless Z had his gun drawn, following TM, which the onus falls upon the state to prove, Z did nothing to warrant an attack by TM.....
     
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    ".....Ok, but I am doing it for my neighborhood, not you"


    Is what I would have said.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesguy View Post
    What do concerned citizens and watch people do? They watch and observe and yes sometimes try to get a better vantage point. The NEN dispatcher 4 times made request of Zimmerman to keep and eye on the person and let them know what he did, in the heat of the moment Zimmerman's actions were perfectly reasonable and acceptable.

    Almost 3 minutes after he had exited the truck, after Martin had run off and Zimmerman had no idea where he was, after 4 times having the NEN dispatcher request he keep an eye on the person.
     
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    that request was not from a LEO.... and has no bearing on what constitutes stalking....
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Lol.... some people haven't the slightest grasp of sarcasm.

    Way to belittle a fellow white, liberal apologist, genius.
     
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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



    race-baiters doing their thing still......
     
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    Your own definition says repeatedly WATCHES or FOLLOWS (both of which Zimmerman did).

    It was only a matter of time.

    Hence, why the legal system in this country is a bad joke. Where I come from, being followed with a gun provokes the response Trayvon Martin acted on. You will not logically justify following a stranger with a gun in more sane parts of this country.

    Following a minor at night is justification enough. Why does Trayvon Martin not have the right to defend himself? Zimmerman was not law enforcement.

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    I'm sorry, did I say something that wasn't true? :roll:
     
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    the simple addition of a gun does not change what is stalking.... Zimmerman followed.




    if TM had done the same, instead of initiating a felony assault... the same could be said. Z wasn't n-gger hunting that night.... he only pulled his gun to get TM off of him.




    no you are racist by continuing to say Zimmerman is white in other posts.... because it fits your narrative of "whitey killing (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s"
     
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    Why does it matter what race the teenagers and overzealous idiots are?
     
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    REPEATEDLY is the key word their genius



    so which one are you? race-baiter, a gun-hater, or both


    you think TM knew Z had a gun when he jumped on him? I don't.



    defending yourself does not include jumping out from behind a bush. But if Z had a gun drawn and hunting TM, that's different, but you would have to prove that assertion.





    that he was white.... lol. Had you at least said "1/2 white" you'd be better....

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    cough-race-baiting-cough
     
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    Zimmerman was properly acquitted of the crime with which he was charged because of insufficient evidence.

    Regardless of partisans creating their conflicting imaginary scenarios, the details of the fatal shooting remain unknown.

    Had Martin, in fighting for his life, killed Zimmerman with his own gun, the jury's verdict would have to be the same.
     
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    Don't insult before you learn how to spell.




    "Race baiter" is a defense mechanism term used by conservatives that are hypersensitive to racial inequality in America.


    No way of telling.. he just knew a creepy older man was following him. At 17 years old, I'd be scared too.

    How does a 17 year old respond to a strange man following them at night? Run, hide, and strike.

    Uhh.... Zimmerman is a white man. However, he obviously has traces of Afro-latino Ancestry in him through his mother.

    Cough defense mechanism cough.

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    Don't insult before you learn how to spell.




    "Race baiter" is a defense mechanism term used by conservatives that are hypersensitive to racial inequality in America.


    No way of telling.. he just knew a creepy older man was following him. At 17 years old, I'd be scared too.

    How does a 17 year old respond to a strange man following them at night? Run, hide, and strike.

    Uhh.... Zimmerman is a white man. However, he obviously has traces of Afro-latino Ancestry in him through his mother.

    Cough defense mechanism cough.
     
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    Actually, no one is really sure what degree, if any, "white" that he has in him. We do know for a fact that Zimmerman is a Jewish name. The rest of him looks very Hispanic. I believe that Peruvian was mentioned in his family tree.
     
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    Hispanic isn't a race.
     
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    No he did not and stalking requires a malicious intent. Again post the Florida law and explain how Zimmerman committed a stalking that night.

    Where do you come from and prove Martin knew the person who was watching him had a gun. Of course just knowing someone has a gun does not grant you license to assault them does it so in my part of the country you would be charged with a crime as Martin would have been had he survived.

    Sure it can be justified just about anywhere.

    OK another baseless assertion on your part, prove Zimmerman knew the person he was watching, Neighborhood WATCH, was a minor.

    Because he had nothing to defend himself against but here you go again, now prove that Martin, under Florida law, had a right to defend himself with force against something Zimmerman did that night.

    So what?

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    And with malicious intent.

    Eggs will NOT post the law and explain himself just as Margot runs from it every time she is challenged.
     
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    He aquitted because of the overwhelming evidence which support his claim of self-defense. And what was Martin fighting for his life against? His life was never threatened.
     
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    No, he was acquitted because the real victim, the only other witness, was DEAD.

    That is the point of stand your ground / self-defense gun law outrage in florida. As long as you kill the other person, you can claim self-defense and be exonerated.
     
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    Because they only care about one race.

    That is quite clear in the posts.
     
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    Quite clear indeed. The person to whom that question was directed, unsurprisingly, did not bother to respond. Invariably, I've found those who complain most about racism are themselves the most racist.
     
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