Georgia Black Man Charged with Murder Claims He Shot at White Teens in Self-Defense

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course I am. She can shout encouragement to the driver to "get his ass" and that makes her an accompllce! You don't know but neither do I. You don't have this case sowed up by ANY means!
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You sir have no idea what it is like to drive on a windy mountain road with, not high beams, but roof mounted KC lights glaring at you and riding your ass. You shouldn't even bother owning a gun. You,Sir, call the police and see where it gets you! Where I was a cop could get there in 30 minutes tops!
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well from what I read, he was in danger of being run off the road. There is a difference.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes it does and that would have been my own solution. Stop, wait and observe.
     
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    If someone is trying to swerve you off the road, do you think it's because they want to exchange Christmas cards? Plenty of murders and car jacking happen this way.
     
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    Exactly. Let them identify themselves as a threat or not before you shoot them.
     
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    And it still doesn’t give someone the right to shoot out of a moving vehicle. Words are NOT attempted murder when you don’t have a weapon. There’s a reason this case isnt at the top of the news cycle. Because he’s screwed. He killed a passenger in a car he claimed was trying to run him off the road. Good luck.
     
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    You're assuming that actually happened. They have to prove it did. Like Juicy Smollet. If it’s he said she said then it comes down to character. Shooter said he tried to run me off the road. The other guy said they just exchanged words and he shot at me. Good luck. Roll those dice. Shooter better not have any priors.
     
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    Oh but I do :) I had a shift bus on my ass on a cold rainy-snowy slick night with it's high beams directly through my back window, I hit a full grown angus at 70mph that night.. Still made it to work and never said a word to the bus driver, just contacted the insurance company, paid the $250 bucks to the owner of the cow and went on with life...

    Come on out, lemme introduce you to Wyoming wind, ice, snow and completely retarded out of staters that can't drive on dry roads let alone black ice, 35mph cross winds and total white outs ;)
     
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    Agreed, we do it for shts and giggles on dirt road a bunch and it's far from being any accurate, actually pretty dumb and absolutely moronic to deal with something/situation you can outrun, or simply dial 911, stop and stand your ground.. As we see here, the passenger ends up dead because of idiot driver and idiot shooter..
     
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    Nah, but he was reckless. If the idiot driving the truck never swapped paint with the other driver and the only other threat was calling names, then that girls death is a tragedy. Hell if all it takes to condone firing indiscriminately in to a car/vehicle is bad words then California highways will be killing fields :nod:
     
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    Now you're just walking hand in hand with the stawman :)
     
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    Hell I drive I80 all the time and sleepy ass Truckers are always keeping you on your toes, the question is, are they sleepy, crazy or simply conclude they are trying to run you in the ditch and kill you. So how do you deal with these dumb ass texters/drivers, I can't count how many times I have had to avoid really bad scenario's and it's getting worse all the time.. Try playing tag with those lunatics with a bike at 80mph, that'll grease your tightly-whities! Hell I'll take demolition derby anytime with cars, cars are pretty damn tough nowadays..
     
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    oh I agree, I would not recommend it, big legal risk, but depending on the jury, they might buy self-defense

    stand your ground laws change things
     
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    sounds like one of the witness in the truck has taken the 5th, he was arrested as they say he changed his story

    https://www.wtoc.com/2021/09/23/day-2-marc-wilson-hearing-attorney-found-contempt-court/

    "He was a passenger in the truck where Hutcheson was killed. He took the stand Wednesday but invoked his 5th amendment rights not to answer.

    Conley was charged after investigators say his story changed during questioning about Hutcheson’s death."
     
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    No. It usually happens because someone is a road-raging a**hole. The vast, vast majority of attempts to "swerve [someone] off the road" end at that and don't escalate further. They very, very rarely progress to murders or carjackings. There might be some minuscule fraction that result in a carjacking / murder, but it's way too small of a percentage for someone to make the plausible argument in court that a "reasonable person" (which is the standard by which Wilson will be judged) thought it was happening or likely to happen. Here's Georgia's self defense law:

    Georgia General Assembly | PAW Document Page (lexis.com)

    If you think that Wilson is going to convince 12 people that he thought he was being carjacked as a prelude to murder, by a handful of punk teenagers who didn't have a lethal weapon in the vehicle with them:
    a) I feel sorry for you
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    b) you'll be disappointed.

    There's still a lot we don't know about this case. For example, at the time of the shooting were the two vehicles side-by-side, or was one following the other. If it's the latter, which one? If it was Wilson following the truck, well ... that's more like the McMichael's following Arbury than Kyle fleeing the pedo and it does not bode well for Wilson's defense.
     
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    Says who? The man who shot and killed someone while moving down a highway? Nah he doesn’t have any reason to lie about that.
     
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    “She testified she was frightened and feared the worst when the truck veered into their lane several times while the young men inside waved and gestured.

    “It’s in the middle of the night. There’s no lights on that road. I didn’t really know what was going to happen,” said witness Emma Rigdon.

    She said Wilson fired his gun toward the truck and yelled for them to back off.”

    OMG they waved AND gestured at him while swerving into his lane several times. What was I thinking that absolutely deserves being shot.

    GD murderous kids waving AND gesturing. I mean if it was just the gesturing then no way it’s self defense but with the waving too?? No wonder he was fearful for his life and felt like he needed to murder the passenger of another vehicle moving down the highway. I mean **** if he had actually stopped the car they might have come up and give him a hug while he was holding his gun. Then he’d have to kill them all

    ****ing killer white teenagers waving and gesturing at people.
     
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    like this

    "Records show teen charged with obstruction in Hutcheson case was arrested for DUI, hit-and-run a month earlier"

    https://www.wtoc.com/2020/07/14/rec...e-was-arrested-dui-hit-and-run-month-earlier/

    "A WTOC investigation has found that a month earlier, Conley was arrested on charges of DUI and hit-and-run."
     
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    exactly, same as in the kyle case

    the reality is, had he not of had a gun, he would not be in the trouble he is now in

    I wonder if they tested the driver of the truck to see if drinking, wonder if he was just drunk driving and swerving
     
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    The reality is the gun wasn’t the cause. The cause was an irresponsible gun owner.

    And no this isn’t like Kyle because we have video of Kyle.

    The woman riding in the car already screwed the whole case. When giving her a testimony of what happens she said and I quote, “it kind of looked like they were trying to run us off the road, but I don’t know.”

    Cant claim self defense from being run off the road when your witness contradicts your testimony about being run off the road. This man is going to prison as he should.
     
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    never said it was the guns fault, I said "had he not of had a gun, he would not be in the trouble he is now in"

    no we did not have video of some of Kyles claims of being threatened, you know that

    I agree, they could have just been drunk driving and swerving, I do not know, this may just be a misunderstanding, he thought it was about race and it may have just been they were drunk and swerving and being rowdy

    and I agree, her statement do not help him
     
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    you j
    you just don't get it. A car can be a weapon.
     
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    cops say it's a deadly weapon if people do that to them and they shoot
     

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