Some are aware I am an M.D. from Univ. of Calif. San Francisco Bachelors in Biology, UCI G.P. ret. Best friend similar but from USC and we discuss medicine and shake our heads and wonder how civilians survive today. Most M.D.'s never really talk about medicine. My neighborhood was built in the mid sixties and some of the first generation homeowners are aging out. I am unhappy how modern medicine - killed - my neighbor who was a very vital oldster. More later if you like. BTW Consider: The oldster's gut loses surface area with age. And difficult to absorb nutrients become more difficult to absorb such as Vit. B12, Iron, essential fats, fat soluble vitamins such as A,D and E, and fatty acids. Old folks should be getting more beef, not less. It is that simple. Instead they are fed low cholesterol slop such as cereal instead of eggs. AND no one has succeeded in feeding someone some "labeled" cholesterol (labeled like a radioactive tag) and finding such whole cholesterol molecules in the blood. I have volumes to discuss if anyone is interested. If the cholesterol is 250 or under, Do Not Treat. Why? The balance against the downside of statins. Moi, M.D. ret. Supported tight control of insulin requiring diabetes before it was popular to do so. Also anti diabetes pills before diet truly attempted. Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
What do you mean by "Also anti diabetes pills before diet truly attempted." Do you mean go spare on pills while attempt dieting to control type of intake as well as weight?
I think she means not handing out insulin like candy at the first sign someone is diagnosed with diabetes.
The issue is about gelatin too. Basically 2 amino acids, proline and hydroxyporline not found in a vegetarian diet. Before the body makes bone, it makes a cartilage / gelatin scaffolding that gets calcified. And those oldsters are on a "Low Gelatin Diet". I remember this one ole lady with a non healing arm fracture who took her calcium and Vit. D. When I added Gelatin Capsules + Vitamin C with Bioflavinoids (use to be called Vit P) along with her calcium - she healed. Also taught her Beef is 3 of the 4 major Food Groups. And calcium is in solution in the muscle tissue. Easier to absorb. Calcium on a low gelatin diet just doesn't work so good. It is only part of the story with this meat avoiding population.
Beef is 3 or the 4 Chocolate (coffee) is the other Everything else is miscellaneous. Denying oldsters "beef" over DIET Cholesterol Theory has been harmful on B12, Iron, Fat Soluble Vitamins, see #1 upload. In the beef is calcium and iron in solution, not "rocks". And oldsters are told to eat Pasta instead and some rabbit food. How sad. High Fat should be encouraged, not denied. Avoiding carbohydrates with fat (bread & butter) is best because fat stimulates excretion systems as only fat can. Fat in stomach stimulates "bile" a means of excreting fat soluble waste, like cholesterol. That is why Atkins patients witness their cholesterol plummet although they are consuming gobs and gobs of Cholesterol. Carbs with fats nullifies this benefits of fat. How many pats of butter can you eat straight? How many pats with bread or mashed potato. This is old time physiology known since the early 20th Century. No Theory. The Theory has been Cholesterol in the mouth becomes Cholesterol in the blood and plugs arteries. Never Demonstrated! One of those lies of Science that gains truth with the retelling! Questions?
I understand the first para, but not the second. Please explain High Fat should be encouraged, not denied. Avoiding carbohydrates with fat (bread & butter) is best because fat stimulates excretion systems as only fat can. Fat in stomach stimulates "bile" a means of excreting fat soluble waste, like cholesterol. That is why Atkins patients witness their cholesterol plummet although they are consuming gobs and gobs of Cholesterol. Carbs with fats nullifies this benefits of fat. How many pats of butter can you eat straight? How many pats with bread or mashed potato.
Please, what part is difficult to understand? From the first sentence or plainly bad paragraph structure on my part. One point is fats have vital nutrients that are difficult to absorb, and older folks have less absorbing surface area in their gut making it further, more difficult to absorb such nutrition. ____________________________________________ @Sallyally Look at "Miscellaneous" bunch. 4 groups + Miscellaneous. Moi's Nutrition Classification System We got Vit C all around us in the modern world. Not scurvy.
I remember when they were discussing provisions of Obama Care on the House and Senate floors; there was much discussion on reducing home health care long term care and nursing home care. I remember thinking, what jerks, senior citizens need these health services and most clearly will be stuck in trashy nursing homes that are understaffed and under payed by Medicaid and Medicare. I know because our office treated these patients and I consulted regarding medical information management, a service mandated by State and Fed Gov.
Yes, but soon we will be flooding Medicare and we will be in one of the largest groups since baby boomers. So we need to start making our voices heard now. Assisted leaving costs a fortune if you want to be in a nice facility and not a nursing home.
I'd poison myself before going into any assisted care facility. I've worked in nursing homes and I think they are all pretty much the same. Retirement villages and special Accommodation facilities are just a sneaky way of attaching a vacuum hose to your bank account. Home care packages should be the norm and they should be funded a lot more generously than they are. Personal care staff need to be registered and accountable to a professional body and not just cheap labour for the proprietors.
Ps. I like the idea of living with a likeminded group with whom we'll pool our resources and buy our own services. I've heard of several small groups of people who have done this.
A lot of noise in this thread but some gems too. As someone diagnosed with Celiac as a small child I have always had a diet exceptionally high in what was allegedly supposed to cause high cholesterol and/or heart disease. In essence I avoided all wheat based carbohydrates and replaced them with fatty meat and potatoes. My cholesterol remained under 200 even though my "good" cholesterol was always on the low side (single digits and low teens) so when statins came out I was started on them in order to "boost" my "good" cholesterol. The statins made no significant difference so my current GP has stopped them. FTR when I was 55 I had a heart stress test that gave me a reading of 35. When I was 64 I swam 64 laps in a full length pool. My upper BP reading is slightly above normal at present because of stress but my GP has refrained from giving me medications because she knows that the stress will pass and the exercise will bring it back down again. My resting heart rate is around 60 bpm. Eating normally works for most people so this nonsense about diets is exactly that. Portion size needs to be adjusted to activity levels but variety should be maintained in order to obtain the necessary range of nutrients. What doctors are missing are the bio-engineered poisons now in our food. In the past most pesticides could be removed by washing since they were only on the outside of the produce. Now you cannot avoid them because they have become part of the food itself. It doesn't help to eat free range eggs or chickens if they are being fed on GMO corn. The Bt-toxins in the corn end up in the chickens and their eggs. Same applies to corn fed beef. Our burgers are full of the same toxins. The issue with Bt-toxin is that it attacks the lining of the stomach which is why so many people are now being diagnosed as "gluten intolerant" even when they do NOT have Celiac. They would be fine consuming NON-GMO products but the Bt-toxin is harming their intestines. The problem is that corn syrup is in EVERYTHING. Sodas, cereals, bread, cookies, pizzas, pasta, etc, etc, etc. Yes, the OP is right that we are not caring for our elderly properly but I am a firm proponent of being responsible for my own health. Exercise is probably more important as we age than it was when we were still working. It is a simple fact of life that anything that stops moving is dying. Our bodies NEED to move in order to keep our blood flowing because that is what delivers the oxygen and other nutrients that all parts of our bodies rely upon. The Use It or Lose It saying applies to our ability to maintain our independence. We will end up in geriatric care centers if we DON'T keep up our exercise routines. Yes, there are those who have the misfortune to suffer from ill health but even then exercise plays a role in recovery and longevity. I am not a medical practitioner but I have always taken an interest in what works and doesn't work for my own body and that has enabled me to adapt and optimize what I have. Doctors are there to provide me with insight into my current state of health but I am responsible for keeping myself as healthy as possible. My current medications are purely to prevent inherited conditions like gout and kidney stones from making my life miserable. Aside from that I take vitamins and natural salts as supplements.
home care is not cheap, & the services do not give meds and also do not stand for 'hard to deal with' seniors like my wife's mom whom is feisty, they can legally walk out and leave the 'patient' unattended... these services are 25usd per hour (cheapest ny rate that we found), for 'round the clock' care that's $600/day, $18,000/month... even if family could cover 2 shifts, it's still $200/.day for 8 hours a day, $6000/month... when needed, a 'facility' is a better choice, many accept the seniors ssn as full payment while medicare pays the medical bills... the 'family' is not legally responsible for any part of the costs unless they agree & sign the appropriate paperwork, which would be foolish to do so...
The absurdity is that no one gets rich providing healthy people with products and services. The greed obsession that is exploiting the sick is doing great harm to our nation in many ways, not the least of which is the damage to the economy and the workforce.
Thats not what I said. What you describe is getting rich with people. I said getting rich off of them. Admittedly, I could have been more precise. But you could assume less as well
annual physicals/check-ups, ever take something for a headache, bruise/sprains, back ache, twist an ankle, break a bone... healthy people get services & 'meds' all the time and 'they' get rich off of them
Pearl of the Day If you know of anyone having a stroke find out if they are on "statins". You can always look it up statins are associated with strokes. A fair trade off for cardiac benefits?
