As I have said repeatedly, attempting to look at WW 2 objectively and holocaust revisionism have nothing to do with hating Jews. Hitler, himself, had Jewish friends, business associates, doctors, drivers, room mates & military superiors whom he held in high regard.(1), (2). He even honored Jewish WW 1 Veterans who were in Palestine at the time(3) and honored many of the 150,000 Jews who served in Germany's WW 2 military(4). I think that it is also noteworthy that there were also Jews who held high ranking positions in the Nazi Party(5) Finally, it was Hitler's high ranking associates who made him end his friendship with little, Jewish Rosa Nienau (6) with whom he shared the same birthday. I think that is obvious that Hitler did not hate Jews on a personal level but that he like the leaders of the German Zionist Federation felt that both the German people and Europe's Jews should have their own "racially pure" homeland. Hitler also saw how the Jewish led Bolsheviks - Communists overthrew and massacred Russia's Czar and his family and feared that Jewish led Communism would consume Germany as it began to do in the tumultuous 1920s. I'm afraid that I haven't spoken German in over 40 years and only understood little of what Hildmann said. I did hear him accuse the Jews of various things but very little of what he said related to holocaust revisionism - denial. I also Googled "Attila Hildmann holocaust denial" but found only that he thinks that the coronavirus precautions are worse than Nazi crimes and that he thinks that the Zionists were among those responsible for the holocaust......that's all. I wouldn't go so far as to say that the Zionists were responsible for the holocaust but they did, indeed, work closely with Germany's National Socialists and shared the same mindset(7) I would think that to be a "... Star on Holocaust Denier Heaven", he would be noted more for holocaust denial - revisionism rather than vegan cooking and anti Semitism. Why focus on his holocaust denial - revisionism when he has written so little on the subject? Thanks, (1) "Herr Hitler before the hate set in" https://www.timeshighereducation.com/books/herr-hitler-before-the-hate-set-in/157864.article EXCERPT "Brigitte Hamann's brilliant new portrait of the dictator as a young man. Hitler's Vienna ….. Hamann disposes of the tenacious myth that Hitler held his Jewish family doctor responsible for the painful death of his mother; in fact, Hitler remained on good terms with Dr Bloch and even intervened to facilitate his emigration in 1938. Hitler was not refused entry to the Academy of Art by Jewish professors, nor was this his perception. Perhaps most stunning of all, however, is Hamann's description of Hitler's numerous Jewish friends and business associates during his Vienna days, at least one of whom later appealed to him directly after the Anschluss, just as the good Dr Bloch had done. We will no longer be able to think of Hitler in Vienna without thinking of his Jewish friend, Josef Neumann, who sold his paintings, the Galician Jew Jakob Altenberg and the Hungarian Jew Samuel Morgenstern, both of them dealers who paid him a decent price, or of the Jahodas, the cultivated upper-middle-class Jewish couple whose company Hitler enjoyed on a few occasions."CONTINUED (2) "Hitler Condemned Pogroms as Young Man; Had Jewish Friends, Companion Relates" https://www.nytimes.com/1933/08/22/...s-young-man-had-jewish-friends-companion.html EXCERPT "VIENNA, Aug. 21 -- That Adolf Hitler as a youth in Vienna had Jewish friends, did his small business mostly with Jews and condemned Russian pogroms because "one can hate In the mass but not in the Individual" was asserted today in a newspaper article of reminiscences by Reinhold Hanisch, a Viennese engraver, who lived and worked with him then." CONTINUED (3) "When Hitler Honored Jewish Soldiers" https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.602868 EXCERPT "The Nazi regime conferred honors on many of the 100,000 Jews who fought in the German army in the Great War, even on some who had already escaped to Palestine."CONTINUED (4) “Hitler’s Jewish Army” http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/...-hitlers-army/ EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval. In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross. Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos). So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism? “If the Jews were permitted to serve in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”CONTINUED (5) "List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent EXCERPT "Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent."CONTINUED (6) "Remarkable tale of Hitler's young Jewish friend" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46192941 (7) "The Zionist-Nazi Collaboration" http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/07/the-zionist-nazi-collaboration/ EXCERPT " Zionists found common cause with Hitler, Eichmann, and the Nazis and used anti-Semitism and Nazism as a means of achieving their end which was the establishment of a Jewish state. The two reactionary movements shared the view that German Jews were living in that country as a ‘foreign race’ and that the racial divide was essential to maintain. The Zionists’ use of Nazism involved, among other things, the blocking of avenues of escape to other countries of Europe’s Jews and diverting them to Palestine, even as the death trains began to roll in Europe. The rise of Nazism and Hitler to power was never, or almost never, opposed by the Zionists prior to the establishment of Israel."CONTINUED
Attila Hildmann obviously disagrees. He believes Jews are to be blamed for all evil, so they must be fought. Some Jews were useful to Hitler, all others he ordered to be killed. You see a contradiction where there is none. He writes little but speaks a lot. Holocaust denial is indicative of anti-Semites. Of course, Hildmann also believes the Nazis were the good guys. He also believes that coronavirus is a lie of world Jewry to exterminate mankind. Attila has always been slightly anti-Semitic, but it was only after he fled to Turkey that he denied the Holocaust and became a radical anti-Semite.
Re: Who cares what Hildmann believes? He is a nobody when it comes to holocaust revisionism. You only chose him as the topic of this thread in order to impugn others who reject the fraudulent holocaust story and suggest that anyone who doesn't believe nonsense concerning "6 million Jews killed", homicidal gas, electrocution and steam chambers etc must hate Jews when such is not the case. Re: Really? How were the Jewish WW 1 Veterans in Palestine that he honored useful to Hitler? How was little Rosa Nienau useful to Hitler? Please show the document Hitler composed to have all the other Jews killed. Meanwhile: “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.” - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190 Re: You keep repeating that insulting canard as it were some profound truth, however, Holocaust denial - Holocaust revisionism has nothing to do with anti Semitism. It is simply an ability to separate fact from fantasy. Do you really believe the following examples of typical Holo-Horror stories ? “Dozens & Dozens of the Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust” http://wolfgangrudolf.blogspot.com/2016/12/dozens-dozens-of-most-outrageous-tales.html EXCERPTS: • Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen • William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years • Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis • Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses • Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated • Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED
I chose Hildmann because I find his story very remarkable, how quickly he became a neo-Nazi and anti-Semite. In fact, he's not a professional HC denier who is active as a writer like Faurisson, Zundel, Leuchter, et al. But he believes their lies with full conviction and spreads them on with much energy. About 2 years ago Hildmann was a completely normal person who had nothing to do with Nazi lies. But now he has changed a lot. Even the expression on his face has changed. He looked friendly then and smiled often. Today his face is a hateful grimace. We'd already discuss this several times. Please read this: Himmler recorded the following words from his meeting with Hitler on December 18: “Jewish question: to be exterminated as partisans.” Btw, the existence of the Holocaust is not the subject of this thread. Hildmann's transformation into an HC denier is the topic here.
Since Hildmann is not known for his "holocaust denial", why did you put that as his most noteworthy feature by making him a "... Star on Holocaust Denier Heaven" if not to deceptively imply that holocaust deniers - revisionists are Neo Nazis and anti Semites? I am just one of a majority of people around the world(1) who does not believe the standard holocaust narrative and who is neither a Neo Nazi or anti Semite. You or anyone else is welcome to read any and all of my thousands of posts and you will not find anything that I have said that is either anti Semitic or Neo Nazi in nature. I can't emphasize enough the fact that one can attempt to look at WW 2 history objectively, refuse to believe the grossly exaggerated holocaust story and at the same time not hold anti Semitic or neo Nazi sentiments. The process of trying to look at WW 2 history objectively has to include acknowledging the fact that the Allies used atrocity propaganda far more extensively than the Germans because the US OWI (Office of War Information) had the assistance of Hollywood's movie moguls. Unlike WW 1 when the British and the US finally admitted that their propaganda was dishonest, the WW 2 Allies (especially Hollywood) continued to crank out propaganda movies up to the present time. Re: I'm afraid that the existence / veracity of the holocaust story has to be discussed in order to determine if his transformation into a holocaust denier - revisionist is erroneous or not. There is so little from Hildmann about the holocaust that it's not even clear if he is an actual "denier" or a revisionist. (1) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS” https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/ EXCERPT “ Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts. Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust." - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated. - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED
Because HC deniers reach for every straw. And Hildmann is the newest one. He's a once-respected public figure, suddenly turned into a Jew-Hater. This is indeed very noteworthy. It doesn't have to. The existence of the Holocaust is a factum throughout the civilized world. Nobody can overthrow historical truth. Hildmann won't make it either.
I would very much like you to answer my previous question which was: "Since Hildmann is not known for his "holocaust denial", why did you put that as his most noteworthy feature by making him a "... Star on Holocaust Denier Heaven" if not to deceptively imply that holocaust deniers - revisionists are Neo Nazis and anti Semites?" Before we continue, I've searched the internet and can find nothing that says Hildmann denied that the holocaust happened. Please show me where Hildmann has said that the holocaust did not happen otherwise it's misleading to characterize him as the "...Star on Holocaust Denier Heaven"
He said: "The Holocaust is the worst, most disgusting, most enduring lie of the Jew ..." https://wtube.org/user/ATTILA_HILDMANN/kKJkUvF Holocaust deniers rarely speak out so clearly.
What is "clear" about part of a sentence that has no context? Is that all he has to say about the holocaust? Another Robert Faurisson, David Irving or Mark Weber would be another "... Star on Holocaust Denier Heaven" except that they do not deny that the holocaust happened so they are actually holocaust revisionists. What you cited is not even his complete quote and he only writes & speaks in German. The standard holocaust narrative is full of disgusting lies but Hildmann has so little to say about the holocaust and nowhere does Hildmann say that the holocaust did not happen so it's dishonest to characterize him as the "... Star on Holocaust Denier Heaven" Why won't you answer my question which was: "Since Hildmann is not known for his "holocaust denial", why did you put that as his most noteworthy feature by calling him a "... Star on Holocaust Denier Heaven" if not to deceptively imply that holocaust deniers - revisionists are Neo Nazis and anti Semites?"
I already did. Also please go to Twitter and look for #AttilaHildmann. There you'll find many discussions dealing with Hildmann's Holocaust denial. It's also common knowledge that Holocaust deniers are mostly anti-Semites and/or neo-Nazis. Hildmann fits exactly into this scheme. Hildmann denies the Holocaust. Hildmann posts anti-Semitic cartoons. Hildmann posts anti-Semitic lies. Hildmann claims (like Hitler did) that the Jews were responsible for 2 world wars.
It's glaring obvious that your entire purpose of this thread is simply to slander the majority of people around the world who do not believe the fraudulent holocaust narrative(1) and have nothing to do with Neo Nazism or anti Semitism. Re: No, that's just your intellectually flawed opinion you need to hold because you cannot support the fraudulent holocaust narrative and must resort to slander rather face the facts that prove that the holocaust story is grossly exaggerated and crassly exploited. Throughout our lengthy exchange in the thread "About the Holocaust", you were unable to refute a single fact I presented that proved myths about 6 million Jews killed(2) in gas, steam and electrocution chambers(3) to be false. Since you were unable to refute these and other facts that prove the standard holocaust narrative to be false, you have resorted to slandering me and the billions of people like me who reject the fabricated holocaust story as "Neo Nazis" and "anti Semites". Even the term "holocaust denier" itself is a deliberately deceptive misnomer because the billions who reject residual WW 2 Allied propaganda and the "product" marketed by the fraudulent, profit hungry Holocaust Industry(4), (5) do not deny that the holocaust happened. The proper term for the billions who believe that the holocaust happened but know that it has been grossly exaggerated by the Holocaust Industry and residual Allied propagandists is "holocaust revisionists" or "revisionist historians". So, unless you want to be slandered for believing physically impossible myths, Hollywood propaganda(6) and ridiculous stories(7), please stop slandering people who know better than to believe profit driven hoaxes and hateful anti German lies. (1) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS” https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/ EXCERPT “ Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts. Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust." - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated. - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED (2) "Was there Really a Holocaust?" https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/wasthere.htm EXCERPT "The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanac's figures were supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Next the Jewish-owned New York Times of February 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000 in addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine." How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?"CONTINUED (3) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death" https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/ EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED (4) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED (5) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298 EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED (6) "The Hollywood Directors Who Filmed the Liberation of Nazi Concentration Camps" https://hyperallergic.com/426644/lamoth-filming-the-camps-the-holocaust/ EXCERPT "George Stevens, John Ford, and Samuel Fuller, best known for their work in Hollywood, all documented the Allied liberation at the end of the war. But during this period of war, they were acting less as artists than as functionaries of US propaganda and information efforts, working for the US Armed Forces and Secret Services.CONTINUED (7) “Dozens & Dozens of the Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust” http://wolfgangrudolf.blogspot.com/2016/12/dozens-dozens-of-most-outrageous-tales.html EXCERPTS: • Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen • William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years • Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis • Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses • Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated • Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED
Attila definitely is a neo-Nazi. Here he claims to be a Ubermensch (superhuman). Attila is a motherf***ing Nazi bastard idolizing an ideology that has torn apart millions of lives.
I couldn't care less about Attila Hildmann and I oppose both Neo Nazism and anti Semitism. However the entire purpose of this thread is to slander the majority of people around the world who do not believe the fraudulent holocaust narrative and have nothing to do with Neo Nazism or anti Semitism. I've simply done enough research and known enough WW 2 and holocaust survivors to know that the standard holocaust narrative is as fraudulent as as the organizations(1), (2), (3) who profit from marketing their "product". If the organizations that comprise the Holocaust Industry are dishonest enough to cheat holocaust survivors, they are certainly dishonest enough to lie about the grossly exaggerated "product" they have been marketing. (1) "How the Simon Wiesenthal Center Falsifies History" http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v18/v18n5p-4_SWC.html EXCERPT "Similarly, there is no trace of crematory smoke in any of the Allied aerial reconnaissance photos taken of Auschwitz and Birkenau on random days in 1944. Cremation specialists affirm that crematories do not produce visible smoke. In short, the available evidence does not support the "billowing smoke" claims of many former inmates."CONTINUED (2) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED (3) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298 EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.” CONTINUED
