God vs. Satan - if God is all-powerful, why does He not just kill Satan?

Sons of God / Sons of Heaven in the Bible refer to angels.

 

But the whole point of the question is why is it God's plan? If you just repeat its God's plan, then you really haven't answered the question. Its really an admission that you really don't know, but you have enough faith in your religion that you have faith that there is a reason for it.

 

Right. I don't know. God has not whispered His motivation into my ear. I opened the thread, because I think it is a thought provoking question. I was hoping to hear interesting takes on it.

There was a movie called 'exorcism of Emily Rose', which was loosely connected to real events. The movie had an interesting ending, where Emily, who has been possessed and tormented by demons was visited by an angel who asked her if she wished to go to heaven, or if she wanted to remain and become a martyr. As long as she remained, people could see the work of the demons, and they would believe God and demons existed. It would draw people to God.

 

Revelations is a rogue book that never should have been included in the bible

 

It seems to be in sync with the rest of it.

 

And some have an interest in confusing what the Bible makes clear. The Bible is a remarkably coherent document being written over 1,500 years by dozens of authors.

 

Yes, and while some argue numerous cycles of translations has changed the meaning, but when they found the dead sea scrolls and compare them to modern text, they discovered it was practically identical. Very few differences in spelling etc, but nothing significant had changed,

 

People have spent 2,000 years glossing over the actual history of the texts that happened to be compiled into this thing called the Bible and asserting their own (often mutually contradictory) interpretations of it from a purely ideological, partial, religious perspective. Hence Christians dominate how these texts are interpreted today in our culture.

The devil as understood by Christianity clearly derived from Zoroaster, not from Judaism. That is what the evidence indicates, and the evidence does not support the Christian interpretation, which is not scientific at all, but ideologically biased.

 

James 4:7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

 

LOL! Context has nothing to do with it.

The question was: Why doesn't God kill Satan???

God says "Love your enemy" and God is Satan's enemy therefore God must love Satan.

Love prohibits killing.

End of story. They strive against each other.......no killing allowed.

 

It was an instruction Jesus gave to us humans. We should love each other, even your enemies. It simply does not translate to how God feels about Satan. God cannot embrace something which is unholy and evil, which is exactly what Satan is. The Bible teaches God will not forgive Satan, but throw him into the lake of fire.

 

If you choose to believe the psychotic story called "The Revelation of John."

 

Nowhere in the Bible does it say God loves Satan. God cannot embrace anything that is evil and unholy.

Here is what the Bible says about Satan

He is the enemy (1 Peter 5:8)
The evil one (Matthew 6:13)
The father of lies and a murderer (John 8:44)
The tempter (1 Thessalonians 3:5)
Proud, wicked and violent (Isaiah 14:12-15)
The deceiver (Acts 13:10)
A schemer (Ephesians 6:11)
A thief (Luke 8:12)

He is the source of everything that God hates. There is absolutely nothing in the Bible which indicates God will forgive Satan or the fallen angels, and nothing to suggest He loves them. The Bible only speaks about His love for humans.

It is not only the book of Revelation (which is 'the reevaluation of Jesus Christ', not John - FYI) which speaks about judgment. The below is from Peter. Not only will God judge the fallen angels, but also those people who are unrighteous. God knows who to judge, and who not to judge.

"For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment."

 

Ok.......that old Debble is gwine burn in hell.

Happy now?

 

It has nothing to do with me. I am only sharing what the Bible teaches about the matter.

 

Would be a rather boring story if God won before Adam came into the picture.

 

I have always wondered why a supposedly omniscient God would being a creature it knew would rebel against Him.

 

If god is all knowing, why did he purposely create satan, and bring evil into existence to begin with. According to Christian dogma, evil didn't exist until Satan, and god created Satan knowing he would be evil. So god intentionally created evil. So, either he isn't all powerful, and had no power to stop satan, or he is not all knowing, and couldn't foresee Satan's evil.

 

"God vs. Satan - if God is all-powerful, why does He not just kill Satan?"

needed a evil villain to sell the religion

 

He was created with enough free will to do so. Not only did Lucifer rebel, but third of all angels did as well.

 

That is a good question, and the Bible does not give a direct answer, but it does say God created Lucifer good, not bad. Knowing what would ultimately happen, does not mean He made it happen. God wants people to come to Him out of our own free will (choose Him, over evil), and existence of evil creates the choice between Him, and evil.

If God knew that Satan would rebel, why did He create him?

https://www.gotquestions.org/if-God-knew.html

In trying to understand why God created Satan, knowing he would rebel, we should also consider the following facts:

1) Lucifer had a good and perfect purpose before his fall. Lucifer’s rebellion does not change God’s original intent from something good to something bad.

2) God’s sovereignty extends to Satan, even in his fallen condition. God is able to use Satan’s evil actions to ultimately bring about God’s holy plan (see 1 Timothy 1:20 and 1 Corinthians 5:5).

3) God’s plan of salvation was ordained from eternity past (Revelation 13:8); salvation requires something to be saved from, and so God allowed Satan’s rebellion and the spread of sin.

4) The suffering that Satan brought into the world actually became the means by which Jesus, in His humanity, was made the complete and perfect Savior of mankind: “In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through what he suffered” (Hebrews 2:10).

5) From the very beginning, God’s plan in Christ included the destruction of Satan’s work (see 1 John 3:8).

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I don't by that. If god has the power to stop evil from existing and chooses not to use it, he is either uncaring, or he is evil himself.

 

Without the ability to choose between good and evil there is no free will. God wants us to choose Him out of our own free will.

 

Omniscience is literally knowing everything, so by that definition, God should have know what Lucifer was going to do while He created him. If God didn't, then he doesn't know all.

 

God also know men would rebel against Him, but that does not mean it was His desire. He created us knowing it, but He also has a plan to save those who wish to be saved.