God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land... this booklet is brilliant!

DennisTate · Apr 4, 2018

Bob from Delaware said: ↑

Tecoyah, you ask, “How can a text written by a man....be a peace plan written by God?” The simplest answer to that is; all the major points of this peace plan are found in the sacred books of the Abrahamic faiths. They’re already in there. How can I lay claim to what was put there long ago? Since I don’t claim to be two or three thousand years old, I can’t take credit for anything found in them. I suppose I could have credited each individual prophet, but I’m sure if they were here to be asked, they’d say that Creator gave them what they wrote or spoke. So do I. All that I did was provide the linkage between these passages from scripture and present it in as clear and understandable a manner as I could. If I can lay claim to whatever skills I possess, to that extent I can take credit.

When I was about twelve years old I read the Old Testament account of the Israelite conquest of Canaan. I was horrified and swore I’d never look at a Bible again. And I didn’t, at least not until after what was either a NDE or OBE back in ’92. It’s too long an account to write it all here, but afterwards a neighbor gave me a Bible and I knew with a sinking heart that I was supposed to read it. So I did. Normally when I read a book, I silently speak each word in my mind as I read along. Something different happened this time. Every so often it was like the book was speaking to me, not me reading it. I’d jot down the passages where this happened. They had two themes. The first variety were showing me how Creator was not limiting “heaven” to only those on the traditional Christian path. It appears pretty much all paths eventually lead to the same destination. The second theme was the individual pieces which together comprise the peace plan.

I hope that answered your first question. You then go on to ask, "And, since both the Bible and Qu'ran explain different version of this "God"....isn't it a bit strange to use the opposing texts to formulate a new one?"

It's about as strange as two people standing on opposite sides of a tree on a sunny day. The one on the sunny side says the tree is bright green. The one on the shady side says the tree is dark green. A neutral observer off to the side sees that both are correct and limited by perspective. The neutral observer is not describing a new tree. The observer is seeing the tree from a wider perspective than the first two.

If you want a real answer to the second question, you'll have to do some reading. Dennis could send you a pdf of "The Way of Holiness & the Sacred Hoop". Or you could download a free copy yourself at www.godspeaceplan.org.
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Wow!!!!!

Bob from Delaware... I took the liberty of quoting your fascinating reply over into another discussion where your ideas
will really impress a young many who regularly posts to this forum:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...onvert-to-islam.392139/page-5#post-1068908274

First century church may have numbered 400,000... did the majority convert to Islam?

DennisTate · May 11, 2021

Bob from Delaware said: ↑

Tecoyah, you ask, “How can a text written by a man....be a peace plan written by God?” The simplest answer to that is; all the major points of this peace plan are found in the sacred books of the Abrahamic faiths. They’re already in there. How can I lay claim to what was put there long ago? Since I don’t claim to be two or three thousand years old, I can’t take credit for anything found in them. I suppose I could have credited each individual prophet, but I’m sure if they were here to be asked, they’d say that Creator gave them what they wrote or spoke. So do I. All that I did was provide the linkage between these passages from scripture and present it in as clear and understandable a manner as I could. If I can lay claim to whatever skills I possess, to that extent I can take credit.

When I was about twelve years old I read the Old Testament account of the Israelite conquest of Canaan. I was horrified and swore I’d never look at a Bible again. And I didn’t, at least not until after what was either a NDE or OBE back in ’92. It’s too long an account to write it all here, but afterwards a neighbor gave me a Bible and I knew with a sinking heart that I was supposed to read it. So I did. Normally when I read a book, I silently speak each word in my mind as I read along. Something different happened this time. Every so often it was like the book was speaking to me, not me reading it. I’d jot down the passages where this happened. They had two themes. The first variety were showing me how Creator was not limiting “heaven” to only those on the traditional Christian path. It appears pretty much all paths eventually lead to the same destination. The second theme was the individual pieces which together comprise the peace plan.

I hope that answered your first question. You then go on to ask, "And, since both the Bible and Qu'ran explain different version of this "God"....isn't it a bit strange to use the opposing texts to formulate a new one?"

It's about as strange as two people standing on opposite sides of a tree on a sunny day. The one on the sunny side says the tree is bright green. The one on the shady side says the tree is dark green. A neutral observer off to the side sees that both are correct and limited by perspective. The neutral observer is not describing a new tree. The observer is seeing the tree from a wider perspective than the first two.

If you want a real answer to the second question, you'll have to do some reading. Dennis could send you a pdf of "The Way of Holiness & the Sacred Hoop". Or you could download a free copy yourself at www.godspeaceplan.org.
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Greetings Bob from Delaware.

I had a rather unusual experience back in 1990 while praying..........

I heard audible voice ask of me ....."Ask of me whatever you want and I will give it to you?"

A month or two before this I had prayed and prayed and put in a bid .... offer... proposed investment........ wager.... bet..... .(I guess it could be explained in many ways)............ but anyway I put in my bid on the "debt / guilt of Azazel" as hinted at in Leviticus 16:10.

Due to what I had already prayed about I doubted the source of this audible voice.......

... so I prayed and prayed for what I remember as several hours before answering...........

I assumed the worst...... and I suspected that that audible voice might have been from Azazel.......

so I basically said....... "Ok.... if you want to do something for me........
go as close as you can still go to YHWH like Satan did back in the Book of Job......
and say a little prayer for CrazyTate that he be given more wisdom than Christ.... while he was human......
so that I can play my father the Devil a good game of chess with five billion unlimited movement variables?"

DennisTate said: ↑

In 1992 or perhaps it was early in 1993 a friend of mine introduced me to his girlfriend who could see human auras.

She told me that mine was almost all blue except for a streak of red around my heart.

Bob from Delaware I have something of a challenge for you that I already know that you can pass with flying colours:

"What would you guess is the greater number......
the national debt of the USA as of today, May 9, 2021 or.............

..... the debt / guilt of Azazel?

"but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza'zel." (Leviticus 16:10, RSV)

I ask you this question because just after Yom Kippur 1990 I personally put in a bid / wager / proposed investment of my time / bet...... on what I assumed to be the debt / guilt of Azazel based on Leviticus chapter sixteen verse ten in the RSV. I offered to become human again an infinite number of times over infinite time in the future and go after the lost to attempt to bring lost people closer and closer again to our Creator the G-d of Abraham or The Great Spirit as Black Elk would probably term Him.

I am of the belief personally that the debt / guilt of Azazel is a far, far, far, far, far higher number than the national debt of the USA and I believe that this question could spark quite a debate among Israelis no matter their theological or philosophical background.

In a way........
back in 1990 I made an offer that could be understood to make me something of a rival either to the final Elijah and / or to Moshiach ben Ephrayim and / or The Mahdi and / or the Jesus of Islam but..............

my goal is to come up with a win - win - win - win - win - win -win -win scenario that all of us can cooperate on as opposed to get all competitive over.

My goal in 1990 was to expand and increase the kingdom of Messiah the Passover Lamb / Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who I believed to have totally fulfilled the Isaiah chapter fifty three aspect of hidden meaning in Passover and the days of Unleavened Bread.

I viewed the 1960 or more years from 31 C. E., (the time of the death, burial and resurrection of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who Muslims name Issa), to 1990 as being symbolized by the seven months from Passover to the annual fall Jewish Holy Days of Rosh ha Shanah, Yom Kippur and Sukkot.

So I felt that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and the G-d of Abraham the Heavenly Father and the Holy Spirit might just be able to make use of a volunteer "Yom Kippur goat" to further expand the Kingdom of God?

As you can guess I had some really strange experiences after I made that offer.

Coming back to this earth an infinite number of times as a human is rather risky.... but I take solace in the promise from Messiah Yeshua - Jesus - Issa that He will never leave us or forsake us.

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/101679/jewish/The-Personality-of-Mashiach.htm

The Personality of Mashiach
By J. Immanuel Schochet
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Thank you for your exceptionally insightful answer to my question related to this controversial topic.

Bob from Delaware said: ↑

Not sure you can put a monetary value on Azazel's debt, but seeing as how whatever debt he incurred was thousands of years ago, the accumulated interest after several millennia probably surpasses the US national debt, especially if Azazel was a very active demon.
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Bob from Delaware said: ↑

I used the term, "accumulated interest". There's another way to look at it, which is pretty scary. It's called the "Ripple Effect". Whatever we do effects others, and in turn effects still more people, spreading out infinitely. If, for instance, I said something that led people to hate one another, that hatred may spread outwards, like the damage caused by racism, effecting millions of people. All this is karmic debt, so to speak. On the other hand, positive acts likewise spread out, but the karma is positive, not negative. Woe to those who fail to understand this principle. And sure, you can post it.
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