GOP blocks House Democrats' attempt to pass $2,000 stimulus checks

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  1. DEFinning

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    That's an over-generality that ignores the current reality. In other words, it might be said that there is, or has been, a benefit to the two Parties sharing control of the federal government; namely, that it has forced COMPROMISE. But that benefit is predicated on the heretofore predictable result of both Parties doing the only practical thing and, as a necessity, being willing to compromise.

    Massive government gridlock, especially at the time of a national emergency, is a much worse thing, under these circumstances, than single-Party control. No matter how sage the wisdom one is quoting, the first quote in one's book should always be, "you can't assess ongoing events merely with the recollection of a saw. Open your eyes to understand how, and if, it applies, first!"
     
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    Nobody cared until people were going to get direct payments.

    I'm glad people are finally waking up. Little too late now, though.
     
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    You get one whole mortgage payment with what is essentially YOUR money that government is giving back to you? Wow. Kiss the feet of your political overlords and thank them for their generosity. You

    **** outta here. $600 is garbage for people who were forced to not work for the last few months by their state leadership.

    Imagine only working two months out of the last eight then tell me how nice a whopping $600 is.

    That's 1/4 of my take-home pay in a given pay period. That's trash, and does nothing for anyone who is months behind on their bills.

    Like I said, I don't want or need it, but for those who do, $600 IS a slap in the face... ESPECIALLY given where the rest of the stimulus money is going.
     
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    Wait on there but didn't God on his ultimate wisdom desgn women to produce babies and isn't that the reason they are a resource?

    Oh yes LOL!!
     
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    The problem is once bills are glopped into Omnibus bills the party and/ Congress people / men/ women who sponsored the monstrosity gets lost in the sausage gringer.
     
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    A slap in the face eh? LOL drama queen.
     
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    More money is being sent elsewhere, do you have a point?
     
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    The Democrats who are stopping 7/8ths of the funding by demanding it go elsewhere.
     
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    Source that Republicans added zero riders outside of the 500M to Israel? Like the new corporate meal tax break or NASCAR tax breaks...
    While you are at it, source that Republicans would even pass a clean bill. Should be easy as they mist have countered with a bill they found more appropriate, right?
     
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    You just make so much stuff up.
     
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    You are the one saying the Democrats are the ones holding this up, even though they already passed it (I know, logic is difficult), surely you have some evidence to back this up outside of your desperate opinion.
     
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    Of course they are, by insisting billions go to foreign governments instead of American Citizens.
     
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    So you have a source showing where Democrats are the ones that inserted these provisions and that Republicans countered with a bill without it, yes? Or are we back to your “feelings”?
     
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    Nancy Pelosi wants to give bigger stimulus checks but not remove the foreign money.

    Republicans want to remove the foreign money but stay silent on bigger stimulus checks.

    I don't support ethier side right now.

    Trump don't want the foreign money. He publicly stated that so I don't care what your link says. Only ones pushing for the foreign money is the Democrats.

    Yet Trump does not want that. He said so. The Democrats are pushing for that. So I find that to be fake news.

    Several countries get more money than Israel but yes I agree the Democrats could care less for Israel. Both parties probably requested money to foreign countries and it was a mistake.

    Trump vetoed the defence bill and left the others sitting on his desk. He asked for 4 things to be done including removing the foreign money and bigger stimulus checks.

    He is not the problem here. He is trying to fix it.

    Pork is pork. It needs to go.

    Not everyone gets as much as you do.

    The bill was not passed until now. Trump can't take a stand if there is nothing to take a stand against.

    If your referring to all of the stuff in the bill it's crazy that everyone only gets a few hours to read 5,000+ pages.

    Without both parties all power would go to a single party. That would be a mistake. Countries with a single power are far worse than America. We had a national emergency since the summer. Both parties need to compromise here.

    You posted a bunch of stuff full of drama.

    We don't know who added what to the bill do we?

    The Democrats don't want to remove the foreign money and the Republicans stay silent on bigger stimulus checks. To be fair it's both sides holding this up.

    Trump only asked for 4 things to be fixed. Sounds easy to do.

    We don't have enough details yet.
     
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    If you weren’t working you also got inflated unemployment. Plenty have told me they made more than they made working.
     
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    Pelosi just announced a stand alone — no pork — bill for 2k on Monday.
    See how you can twist that.
     
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    The bill with the provisions passed the Democrat house.
     
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    And the Republican senate - 92-6.
     
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    Thanks for that, as the saying goes 'it's better to be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt' so I appreciate being corrected. As @TheAngryLiberal said, maybe the issue is less who's pet project belongs to whom and more that it should've been a clean bill which these events sour on the possibility in a Biden Administration.
     
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    Trump, his loyalists, and Kelly Loeffler's RATIONALE;

    ''Eliminate the wasteful items, and then, increase stimulus checks from $600 to $2,000''

    Sounds goooooooooooood, but here's;

    THE MATH

    Question; If a $600 stimulus package equates to a cost of $166 billion, what $2,000 equates to?

    Answer; $553 billion

    Cost differential; $533 - $166 = $387 billion

    NOTE: Trump's wasteful spending are listed in the $1.4 trillion OMNIBUS Appropriations Bill, and mainly Discretionary Spending, however, do they amount to said cost differential of $387 billion?

    Let's see;

    $1.4 trillion - $387 billion ''wasteful spending'' = $1.013 trillion

    Question: Are the following spending items listed in the $1.4 trillion Appropriations Bill, wasteful?


    Base Defense; $672 billion
    Veterans Affairs; $243 billion
    Homeland Security; $51 billion

    Total $966 billion

    NOPE!

    Therefore, amount remaining to fund the following Branches, Departments, Agencies, ($1.013 trillion - $966 billion) = $47 billion

    Executive Branch
    Legislative Branch
    Judicial Branch
    Department of Agriculture
    Department of Commerce
    Department of Education
    Department of Energy
    Department of Health and Human Services
    Department of Housing and Urban Development
    Department of the Interior
    Department of Justice
    Department of Labor
    Department of State
    Department of Transportation
    Department of the Treasury:
    Social Security Administration;
    NASA
    Office of Personnel Management
    Corps of Engineers
    National Science Foundation
    Small Business Administration
    General Services Administration
    Environmental Protection Agency

    CONCLUSION: Trump's wasteful spending listed in the $1.4 trillion Omnibus, certainly do not amount to said ($600 to $2,000 cost differential), $387 billion. The truth is; DEFICIT SPENDING will largely fund Trump's $2,000 stimulus checks, thus, attention Trump's loyalists/self-acclaimed fiscal conservatives; Stop the hypocrisy!
     
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    I thought it was a bipartisan bill.
    94-6 in Senate.
    Almost the same bipartisan count in house.

    So why the BS about Dems?

    Dishonest?
     
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    Another that doesn't know the vote count. Lol
     
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    No matter which party?

    You just blamed Dems one post prior.
    Spare your fake outrage of both parties.

    This was the most bipartisan vote in a long time.
     
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    Mind boggling. Fkn mind boggling.

    Most brain washed group ever. And they dislike education.
     
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    Trump is a teetotaler.
     

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