GOP's Transcript Release Gambit Backfires Upon Actual Reading

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're exhausting yourself tap dancing around the matter at hand.

    The decision not to go public with the fact that the campaign was being investigated..........a decision having nothing to do with what Page and Strzok were doing.............by the FBI's top brass completely refutes the claim by Don and the minions that the FBI was acting in a biased way against him. If such bias existed the FBI could have effectively ended his candidacy by leaking the existence of the investigation to the media during the summer of 2016.

    Page was questioned by numerous participants including hyper partisan Repubs like Trey Gowdy.

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-transcripts-lisa-pages-house-judiciary-committee-interview

    Aren't you tired of losing yet?
     
  2. kriman

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    The issue at hand is your OP which makes the ridiculous claim that Rachel Maddow destroyed the republicans. .
    But the one which was shown and discussed was the one by Jackson Lee.
     
  3. Lee Atwater

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    Maddow didn't have to, the testimony did it for her.

    The issue at hand is your farcical assertion that only Page and Strzok (for whom there is zero evidence they pursued a vendetta against the Orange Fraud according to the IG's report) possessed information about Don that would have ruined his campaign if it had become public when in fact many people did including those at the top of the FBI.

    "So, by which, I mean if he is not elected, then, to the extent
    that the Russians were colluding with members of his team, we're still
    going to investigate that even without him being President,because
    any time the Russians do anything with a U.S. person, we care, and it's
    very serious to us. But if he becomes President, that totally changes
    the game because now he is the President of the United States. He's
    going to immediately start receiving classified briefings. He's going
    to be exposed to the most sensitive secrets imaginable. And if there
    is somebody on his team who wittingly or unwittingly is working with
    the Russians, that is super serious."

    That is part of Page's testimony. It comes as Trey Gowdy is trying in vain to make something out of her texts to Strzok that simply isn't there. It represents the seriousness with which the FBI took their responsibility to make sure US intel did not make it in to the hands of Russians. It was their duty to carry out their investigations.

    The fact that these people's first priority was the safety and security of Americans.........and they got attacked by a lying piece of shyte like Trump for doing their job............it makes me disgusted.
     
  4. TomFitz

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    That's what you do!

    I've lost track of how many times I've discredited a right winger's claims by quoting from his own link, which they clearly had not read.
     
  5. Lee Atwater

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    The first 30 or so pages of testimony was from questions asked by Gowdy. Have you even read the transcript?
     
  6. Lee Atwater

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    More from the testimony.......

    Ms. Jackson Lee: What is your thought about the representation of political bias that impacted the prioritization between the Clinton
    and the Russian investigation?

    Ms. Page: So bias had nothing to do at all with respect to prioritization. If by what you mean is in October, so the Weiner laptop
    versus I mean, as I tried to describe with the majority interview, ma'am, there is simply no greater threat than what the Russians pose to the United States.

    They are they have as an objective, as you well know, the sort of dismantling of the Western alliance and dilution of democratic
    ideals. And so the notion that a Russian was offering assistance to a Presidential campaign was incredibly grave to all of us.
    ............................................................................................
    Members of the intel community have shown remarkable restraint in not speaking of Don in terms of the self centered pile of dung that he is. Putin must be so proud of himself.
     
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    Where did I say only? Strzok and Page conducted their own vendetta against the Trump. You said that was separate from what the FBI was doing. It was. The discussion by Maddow was of a conversation between Jackson Lee and Page. I would not have expected anything good out of that conversation. If what Strzok and Page was of such monumental importance, they should have worked with the FBI, not head off on their own.

    Strzok and Page made up their mind that Trump was not going to be president. That is not the job of the FBI. Their job is to investigate and then hand over the results to the judicial agency. Strzok convinced Comey to change the IG report from Grossly Negligent to Extremely Careless. There is no provision in the law which makes it any less of a crime just because of ignorance. In other words, Strzok cooked the books and the FBI overstepped their authority.
     
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    Yet you made no comment on what it means.
     
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    Report the OP is you think it's not per rules.
    But what is your take on the topic itself?
     
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    Since you have obviously read it, could you post a link and the page number?
     
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    duplicate
     
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  12. dairyair

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    If the FBI, as you say, would do everything they could to keep such wonderful people, then why don't they still work for the FBI?
    Did not the FBI fire them?
     
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    They did.
     
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    Maybe that's why Gowdy didn't run for re election. He knew what a farce the whole thing is.
     
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    Then read it yourself. I provided you a link.
     
  18. ronv

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    I can't say I see the excitement in it.
    She does seem a lot smarter than Gowdy. It's kind of fun to read and full of places that could be taken out of context.
     
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    When?
     
  20. ronv

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    Right after he won the nomination.
    Edit:
    Let me add:

    In the weeks after he became the Republican nominee on July 19, 2016, Donald Trump was warned that foreign adversaries, including Russia, would probably try to spy on and infiltrate his campaign, according to multiple government officials familiar with the matter.

    The warning came in the form of a high-level counterintelligence briefing by senior FBI officials, the officials said. A similar briefing was given to Hillary Clinton, they added. They said the briefings, which are commonly provided to presidential nominees, were designed to educate the candidates and their top aides about potential threats from foreign spies.

    The candidates were urged to alert the FBI about any suspicious overtures to their campaigns, the officials said.

    There are a couple of angles to this to keep in mind. The first is that Trump’s latest complaint – federal law enforcement should’ve given him a heads-up about the “Russia problem” during Russia’s attack on our political system – is difficult to take seriously given the counterintelligence briefing he received in 2016.

    But for the president to remind us of this is especially unwise since Trump did more than just ignore the warning – the Republican and his team also failed to volunteer information that would’ve mattered to the FBI at the time.

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...-received-ignored-and-apparently-forgot-about
     
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    Sure
     
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    (emphasis mine)

    But why wasn't he warned about specific threats during the campaign? That is the question. My guess is that he was being set up for the bogus charges later.
     
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    What specific threats do you think they should have warned him about?
     
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    They are all typical dedicated FBI types. All have exemplary records in their field of expertise. Trump, Wilbur Ross, Menucin, Kushner and Putin are Deep State snakes.
     
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    Carter Paige, for instance.
     

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