GOP's Transcript Release Gambit Backfires Upon Actual Reading

You are welcome to your opinion

But the rogue agents at FBI are a danger to our republic and must be banished from government

 

Uh,,,,, because they strongly suspected he was involved in it, and because they knew that virtually every member of his senior campaign team were........

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/08/us/politics/michael-flynn-sally-yates-hearing.html

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tim...ings-white-house-mike-flynn/story?id=47272979

You may want to ask why Trump is still the only Presidential nominee in half a century to refuse to be briefed by the intelligence committee after the conventions. This had never happened before. Trump famously bellowed that he knew more than his intelligence people (during the campaign). He has denigrated the intelligence and law enforcement comminities every since.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...396801049ef_story.html?utm_term=.cb36d7144f3d

 

All he had to do was stop refusing his briefings.

Care to explain why the Trumpster narrative seems to center around covering for Carter Page, who hasn't even been charged with anything. That's what this whole "rogue" FBI operation that Trump media is beating the drum about is.

What makes Carter Page such a person in need of political cover from Trump??

 

Sure, that's what Gowdy was trying to do. The right wing trash blogs know how to remove statements from context.

And since this is a noise campaign aimed at Trump's base, that's all they wanted.

 

Perhap's because the FBI's alibi for infiltrating the campaign has always been Carter Page. Carter, who as you point out, hasn't even been accused of anything. Carter who's initial surveillance revealed nothing, was then subjected to even more covert surveillance thanks to the introduction of Steeles British spy novella. The real question is why Steele is still enjoys so much political cover, despite having been axed by his FBI / DOJ handlers 2 yrs ago.

 

Your question implies the Russians were being secretive about their efforts with respect to contacts among members of the campaign. They weren't. They may have been covertly attempting to influence the election by means of using social media, but their contact with, for example, G. Papadopoulos was quite explicit. Joseph Misfud openly told Papa it was Russia that had compromising material on Hillary. Two months later some of the stolen material was leaked through Wikileaks. Rob Goldstone left no mystery about where the help being offered to Donnie J was coming from. Donnie J was told it was coming from the Russian government.
The FBI had every reason to believe Team Trump was fully aware Russians were reaching out to them to influence the election in favor of Don. This is after Don had hired people like Carter Page and Manafort who had connections to Russians.

 

This is an idiotic claim.

The FISA warrant that is the obsession of Trumpster media dates from AFTER the campaign.

No, the question I asked, is why this entire rigth wing media campaign (and it is a campaign, nothing more) focuses on protecting and obsessing about Page. He has not been charged. He is not much in the news.

Why the obsession? It's obviously an obsession with the Trump team, as they keep promoting the meme.

That Page was fluttered by Russian intelligence before he got involved with the Trump campaign is not in doubt.

And it would naturally raise alarms for folks in intelligence to learn tthat a major Presidential candidate had just named a man well known to be Moscow's man as his campaign manager, and then announce that a guy that they knew had been approached for recruitment by Russian intelligence as a "senior foreign policy advisor".

Just those two facts alone would be enough to base an investigation on. It's a national security matter, at that point, no matter who the candidate is. Add to that, the candidate's long standing business dependence on Russian gangster and people that the FBI and CIA already knew were Putin's puppets, and you have yet another sound reason.

And Trump's obvious recklessness and stupidity (which has continued unabated) was not a source of confidence.

The FBI wouldn't have been doing its job if it had ignored all of this. Because all of what I listed above was right out in the open.

It's true that the audience that gets its "news" from AM radio and Fox didn't know any of it, and their media made a point of avoiding all these topics.

But anyone who followed business or current events with any detail over the last 20 years, knew all of it (except for the attempted recruitment of Carter Page, which did get coverage in the NYT, but not much. Nobody knew who the guy was).

 

The FBI didn't infiltrate the campaign. Pages surveillance wasn't based on the dossier. You've left out the context of why Steele's relationship with the FBI was terminated.

When I see a post like yours I go back to last week's discussions about the duplicity of Faux. I imagine many if not all of your false beliefs come as a result of consuming copious amounts of right wing media lies and distortions of the truth.

 

Baseless, hyperbolic accusations like that come as a result of a devotion to right wing media and the lies they tell.

 

Wow, you and TomFitz have a hard time reading plain text. Carter's INITIAL surveillance turned up nothing ... surveillance RENEWALS granted due to the INTRODUCTION of Steeles dossier. Steele falsely claimed he hadn't leaked to media, and falsely claimed Isikoff was independent verification. He lied to investgators ... and I've heard that's a crime. One oddly not prosecuted in Steele's case.

 

Here's an idea. Rather than take the word of a partisan ideologue paid to attract an audience with confirmation bias, why don't you read the 370 pages of Page testimony yourself?

Then you can draw your own conclusions, rather than be a slave to what someone else tells you to think?

 

Irony...….

 

If you read through Page's transcript you'll find Trey Gowdy's questioning begins on page 7 and goes to page 46. He spends virtually the entire time trying to show something nefarious from the texts sent from Page to Strzok. He fails. Yet it is these texts that the consumers of right wing media and believers in the Liar-in-Chief have been convinced give substance to accusations of bias that materially effected the FBI's investigation. If Gowdy had a shred of decency or honesty he would have issued a statement following the questioning of Page admitting she gave answers that, in context, explains what was meant by what was written in those texts. As the saying goes, there is no there there. All Gowdy proves is the GOP was/is on a wild goose chase in a futile effort to discredit the FBI.

Unfortunately, it hasn't stopped Trumpers from believing the myths.

FBI agents have political views. Many, as Page points out, had anti-Clinton views. Those views did not effect the investigations no matter how many times Repubs and the Conman-in-Chief claim they did. A fact confirmed by the IG's investigation.

 

Don't forget, John Brennan was caught lying to Congress about the Dossier as well. Why he hasn't been charged with contempt is simply more evidence of the corruption that surrounds the whole investigation and actions by these treasonous scumbags in the DoJ, FBI, etc..

 

Truth.

 

Said the consumer of copious amounts of right wing media lies.

 

He scored heroically Lee. Why would you attempt to suggest otherwise?

Many have Anti Clinton views? Page mentioned two, that she personally never witnessed. And this was under the nauseating questioning of cerebrally challenged, Sheila Jackson Lee.

Excerpts from transcript of Lisa Page testimony - Emphasis added

Ms. Jackson Lee. In your time at the FBI and Justice Department, have you been evidence of anybody applying political bias in the investigation of any subject matter?
Ms. Page. I have.
Ms. Jackson Lee. And in what instance?
Ms. Page. I'm aware of senior executives telling people on the Clinton team who are anti-Clinton that they had to get her, that they were counting on us to get her.​

"Ms. Page: My understanding, and I was never a personal witness to this, but this is what I've been told, was that at various times Sandy Kable (ph), who was an early executive on the case, as well as Randy Coleman, who at one point was the AD of the Counterintelligence Division, had both made comments to that effect."
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You're going to have to do a better job of misrepresenting and spinning. Just spewing out stuff won't fly here.

 

I'm not convinced you have a handle on the definition and meaning of that word.

 

Stop projecting. It doesn't help your cause.

 

From Page's testimony.............explaining the FBI's thinking in having Comey make the announcement as to why they couldn't make a chargable case against Hillary.

*Ms. Jackson Lee. Let me just give you this final question and then I'm going to go into another series of questions.

You're talking about two seasoned prosecutors, Ms. Lynch and Ms. Yates, could have even written their statement.

Ms. Page; It's not at all about their capability. They are both absolutely enormously capable. It's really about perception.

And so I think that the Director's view and again, I'm speaking for him, so it is an awkward position to be in because he's a pretty
good speaker -- but the perception I think was that, look she is...she was so...loathed, she is a very polarizing figure, Secretary Clinton, and so we all knew it was 100 percent consistent and universal that she was....there was not a prosecutable case.

And we, the FBI, thought that that message was more credible coming from the FBI, who is independent and is not a political sort
of body, in the same way that the Justice Department is being headed by political appointees who have closer relationships with the White House.*

 

Don't be surprised if in the future I don't waste my time responding to your banal posts as they routinely add nothing to the discussion.

 

Personally I think Stefan Halper should be the prime target. He has no political loyalties at all ... normally admirable, but negated by his paranoid delusions. His photo / bio should affixed to Websters definition of Russiaphobic. Halper's made a fortune on both sides of the Atlantic by selling his paranoid RUSSIAN! analytics to states intelligence. God knows how many conflicts he's tried set up in 40 yrs.

 

Certainly, if you don't try. It would have been prosecutable for anyone else. I would have been in jail. Putting a server in your closet and storing, receiving and transmitting classified information is a very deliberate act. She was either incredibly stupid or she knew she was breaking the law.

 

They've been beating this idiotic narrative for two solid years now. They haven't added a single shred of evidence to support any of these ridiculous claims.

They just keep repeating it over and over again.

And they keep trying to use this made up meme to justify ignoring the mountain of obvious and well documented facts.

When this is all over, this stupid meme will enter the far right wing pantheon of charished myths alongside the Vince Foster conspiracy theory, birtherism, Benghazi and the rest of the long list of conservative myths that are dutifully tended and kept alive by the extreme right wing.

 

That's the richest hot mess I've seen posted so far this morning. Brennan sure denied circulating the Steele dossier. I'd like to hear in what context Brennan's denial can be remotely CONSTRUED as being truthful.