Grand Jury Charges 1 in Breonna Taylor Case

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  1. TBLee

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    I understand. But, you made a point of saying that " while approximately eleven other neighbors heard no knock or announcement". Which appeared (at least to me), that there was only one witness that heard the knock, while the truth is that Walker himself made statements that both Ms. Taylor and him heard the knocks, and that while watching tv in their bedroom the loud knocks were the reason they went out into the hall.
     
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    Now doubt is being expressed that the boyfriend even shot at the officer:
     
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    It has not been contested that the bullet that hit the officer was a 9mm caliber. The only person present that night with a 9mm, was Walker. Walker admitted to firing his 9mm weapon in a sworn statement.
     
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    And that really is the issue. You believe. And unfortunately, in this case, your belief is based on a number of false premises and assumptions.
     
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    What is to explain? The facts of the case testimony indicate that the actions of the police identified them as police at the time. There is witness testimony to it. Are you simply going to ignore the record? It seems as much. Given the makeup of the grand jury, your pleadings seem unable to overcome the findings of the jury. I bet this, for you, is like finding out Santa isn't real....
     
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    They identified themselves as "police" but yet they got a no-knock warrant ? C'mon DR. WHY did Walker actually call the police to report someone trying to break in if they actually identified themselves as police ? WHy would you go to the lengths to get a no-knock warrant and then announce yourselves ?

    Something doesn't pass the smell test here
     
  8. drluggit

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    Ask the LVP. All we have is the record of the GJ proceedings as provided by the KY AG. Perhaps you could send him a letter.... The rest of your wishful thinking narrative is nothing more than a fishing trip. The phrase, hook, line and sinker comes to mind.
     
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    So the 4 cops at the door all said they announced themselves with a no-knock warrant ? .........wow color me surprised. BTW, What did Kenneth Walker tell the Grand Jury ?
     
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    "While the department had received court approval for a “no-knock” entry, the orders were changed before the raid to “knock and announce,” meaning that the police had to identify themselves."

    https://www.nytimes.com/article/breonna-taylor-police.html

    Good chance the boyfriend wouldn't have had time to grab a gun if it wasn't changed to a Knock and Announce warrant and Breonna might be alive today.
     
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    But the official warrant is a no-knock warrant. The AG said they told the officers to "announce", yet my point still stands. Why did Kenneth call the police if they announced ?

    All due respect Glitch, something is fishy here. They say they announced, Kenneth says they didn't, and the actions of Kenneth show that he didn't know they were cops. And remember, all we have today is Grand Jury testimony which is completely one sided. We only have the officers word on what happened, and nothing official from Walker in the court proceedings so far.
     
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    A lie? Just guessing.
     
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    Ummm, no. He didn't get to testify....ONLY the cops ;)

    So again.......we get one side of the story, and thats all ;)
     
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    Here's an attempt at fact checking but I wonder if this issue will ever be sorted out to everyone's satisfaction:
     
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    Hmm... so do you think we would be a credible witness? I mean, he did shoot through a closed door. At police. And what kind of priors does he have?
     
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    of course his attorneys wouldn’t let him! He has possible criminal liability.
     
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    Kenneth says he heard the loud lock but didn't hear the announce. They wouldn't have knocked if they were conducting a no knock warrant. I suppose you'd need to do some testing on the apartment from where they were located and how loud the tv was to tell what it would take for them to be heard from the bedroom with the tv on. Skeptical if I would hear if it happened at my house. I do find it odd calling the police when the police are already there but at that point I doubt he was thinking too rationally.
     
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    My understanding is that the AG is not allowed to release the report and Crump knows this so Crump is being dishonest here.
     
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    Will many people take this into account:

     
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    Thats not what a Grand Jury is for. All this is pointing out is that the police are currently covering their own butts and that in a real court their wold be push back and the truth would come out
     
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    Its a GRAND JURY. He doesn't get to testify. Thats the point.

    The truth will come out in the trial
     
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    That may be true. Im only pointing out that what we have in the public sphere today comes from the Grand Jury. And that is a one sided affair.
     
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    If you want to argue against a no-knock warrant I'm with you.
     
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    He certainly could if subpeaned to testify....he was a witness....but obviously had criminal liability and still does
     
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    Generally it is the state that presents its evidence to the grand jury to determine if there is enough to go to trial and the defense does not get to make its arguments.
     

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