Guess whose fault it is that Russia invaded Crimea. Hint: not Putin's

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  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you trying to tell me if they find out our E-mails have been hacked or that our intelligence discovers foreign meddling, they have to ask permission from the President to track it down? What the hell is their job?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So... in your world, we bombed Russians in Syria because they invaded Ukraine.

    And your response doesn't get any better from this point..
     
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    Seems like that question has been ask before. I haven't seen anything from the WH, have you?

     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only way we have to go after Russia is the military? She is asking that to a Navel Operations Commander. Why doesn't she ask that to the CIA and FBI? Our military isn't going to engage in operations to stop Russian interference in our voting.
     
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    In your world Trump is to blame for Obama's weaknesses.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ah.... now it's "years after" Isn't it wonderful to have Internet to verify the facts about things we post? However, it would be great if you verified them before you post them.

    Since Russia annexed Crimea in mid 2014, and Obama authorized the sale in early 2015,... doesn't appear to be much room for "years after", is there?.

    There is a lesson here: Boys and girls.... don't use wingnut media as your research sources. You are sure to end up looking foolish.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those were private arms dealers. There was no official government support of weapon systems to Ukraine.

    Obama did nothing except send them backpacks and sporks.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No. In my world Putin is to blame for Putin's actions. In Trump's, Obama is to blame for Trump's (and everybody's) actions, and inactions. And in your world, Trump's word is holier than the Bible.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wrong wrong wrong! You can't get anything right, can you?

    They are all private gun sales.

    Obama: ($75 Million authorized)
    http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-us-ukraine-aid-20150311-story.html

    Trump: ($41.5 Million authorized)
    http://thehill.com/policy/internati...tration-approves-lethal-arms-sales-to-ukraine

    And let me tell you one thing: I completely disagree with Obama (and Trump's, of course) authorizing any weapons sales to Ukraine. I'm just showing you how absolutely void of facts you are. And how your reliance on wingnut media is the reason why you are so uninformed.
     
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    Blah blah blah.

    Congress authorized it back in 2014 and Obama never approved it.

    Trump did though.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...arms-sales-to-ukraine/?utm_term=.27ec3a81e57d
     
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    Hopefully you can get past your hatred in time. It doesn't make for a happy life.
     
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    catalinacat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bull. Do some research on Crimea and Putin. When Obama stupidly decided to start the riots in Libya, that's when it all started. The U.S. asked Libya to dispose of all their weapons. Gaddafi did so. Then, what did Obama do, armed the rebels with aircraft and other arms to overthrow Gaddafi. When Putin saw how the U.S. was dealing with people, even after they disposes of nuclear weapons; he decided to take action and get more control. That's is why he took Crimea back. They are Russian anyway, it's not like they are Iraqis, living in Iraq. The majority of Crimeans are happy to be annexed back into Russia. The only ones you hear are the leftist Putin haters, Crimean Tatars, a minority muslim ethic group.
     
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    Obama started the riots in Libya?

    Ok.. I know that sometimes it doesn't look that way, but a bare minimum of rational thought is appreciated in this forum. This is insane.

    And this is how you intend to prove that Putin was not responsible for invading Crimea?

    Completely nuts
     
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