Gun control strategy that satisfies both sides

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Hitops, Oct 14, 2011.

  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Criminals are often very law abiding in areas they don't focus their money making activities on.
    Artcl 1 section 8
    The constitution didn't itemize a lot of things but we still construe it allows for regulation....like lthe FAA and airlines. So, let's not be dillusional .
     
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    So you want no.laws?
     
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    Correct but I want to go with the highest rate of success.

    When I worked towards being debt free I started with the largest expenses and paid them down. I think if we want to work towards being death free we need to start with those things that have the highest death rate.
     
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    Yes I brought up cars. I will license my car and myself to drive anytime you want. No one is trying to confiscate my car!

    But you do know where I stand on this. Shall not be infringed means just that. All rights have limits. I have freedom of religion but very few would want to see me making animal sacrifices on the lawn of my church. I have freedom of speech but that does not give me the right to make threats. I have the right to bear arms but that does not mean I can stand downtown in my city and fire my AR into the air.
     
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    And, you obviously want games. Again, the humor wore off and now you are just boring. Off to better things.
     
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    Criminals dont obey laws so you do not want laws.

    Please correct the record
     
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    Laws keep honest people from becoming criminals.
     
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    In criminal behavior there has to be a distinction between the intent of each crime. There are a lot of white collar criminals who won't J walk and people who's steal who would never think about murder. There have been mass murderers who've never got a speeding ticket. Then, those who commit crimes just to put food on the table.
     
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    Pathetic.
    So, how much per post? You just be getting paid per post, since you coninually contribute nothing of substance but continue with absurdity.
     
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    So? Are you making a major point or just joining the game?
     
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    If you can't back up your argument I understand
     
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    You can run....you just cant hide. Lol
     
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    I'm a rule breaker, a heart breaker and a life taker
     
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    Laws define the limits of acceptable behavior in a society. Criminals are not always innately evil . Many were raised without limits in their behavior and know nothing different. By defining the rights of people in our society, the constitution puts limits on everyone with respect to those individual rights. So, these are not just govt limits, they're limits for everyone. Not only can't the gov enslave any individual, but neither can corporate greed.

    The rich don't have the right to extract
    Wealth from the middle class which they have been for decades.
     
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    Nor do you have the right to parade around with an AR 15 intimidating people . We have concealed weapons permits so kids aren't raised to feel we're living in a third world dictatorship ruled by a thug and not a civil society where everyone feels they have to parade around showing off their manhood.
     
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    Every regulation must be constitutional. But not all of them actually are constitutional. They are merely presumptively lawful for the time being.
     
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    Agree, but that's up to the people through the courts and legislators to decide which happens with every law suit.
     
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    Open carry is legal in most locations in the united states. If someone is intimidated by the mere sight of a firearm in the possession of one who is not a law enforcement officer, then that is ultimately their own problem, rather than the problem of the firearm owner who is merely exercising their legal rights.

    First, raising children to be ignorant of the real world does not do them any favors.

    Second, those who equate legal firearms ownership with compensation for sexual inadequacy are obviously devoid of a legitimate argument, and instead are going right to the cheap insults.
     
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    If someone is intimidated by a legal act, does that give that fearful someone any redourse?

    What region of the country to do live in where people are afraid of open carry?
     
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    Still feeding the troll?
     

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