Half of Americans say Trump is victim of a 'witch hunt' as trust in Mueller erodes

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  1. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Mueller isn't a witch hunter, and the charges were backed up with real evidence, not conjecture. Are you simply a blind supporter of the Trump cult?
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    How many years did Republicans drag their investigations out for the Clinton Presidency? Did they care how much damage they did to the country then? Why care now?
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What do you think the Clintons have to do with this?
     
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    My suggestion still stands. You should learn what a witch hunt is and does.
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    One minor difference. The Clinton investigation(s) were based on actual known crimes. Also each added investigation/crime had explicit authorization from the AG and a special three-judge panel set up to make such authorizations. Something spelled out in the Special Prosecutor law and which Mueller and Rosenstein simply ignore.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    No doubt, desperate Trumpwanks will cling to this seriously-flawed poll question - https://www.imediaethics.org/fundam...mericans-say-trump-is-victim-of-a-witch-hunt/ - because it pleasures them, and why not let them pleasure themselves?

    The Trump Justice Department's Republican Special Counsel was appointed by the Trump Justice Department's Republican acting Attorney General "to oversee the previously-confirmed FBI investigation of Russian government efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election and related matters." and that mission, vital to the nation's national security, continues, regardless of petty, hyper-partisan anxieties.

    Truths will be uncovered, some of which some would dearly wish to keep as hidden from public scrutiny as Trump's oft-promised tax returns, but the truth will out.

    As the Trump Justice Department's Republican Special Counsel quietly fulfills his patriotic mission, hysterical crackpots are mewling that "there should be no report!",
    but the US is not about to surrender to Putin's treachery as a consequence of that pathetic PR campaign.



     
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    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In a democracy and a nation of laws comrade...when crimes are uncovered during an investigation it means they are intertwined and must be addressed as such. Not rocket science here. :rolleyes:
     
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    One minor flaw: that mandate violates the law on appointing Special Prosecutors.

    Why you guys put so much stock into the pissant retort that Mueller and Rosenstein are registered Republicans escapes routine logic.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely nothing. It's just hypocritical of Republicans to claim oversight investigations damage the political system after they did what they did with the Clintons.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Really? Precisely what were those "actual known crimes" Clinton as guilty of? I'm curious.

    And, what are Mueller & Rosenstein both ignoring in the Special Prosecutor law that applies to the Trump case?
     
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    So you think Mueller "gets even" for Starr? The impeachment of Bill Clinton HURT the GOP, it didn't help them, Silly!

    FAKE NEWS CNN: Support For Impeaching Trump Drops 12 Points Among Dems, At Lowest Level Overall Since Last June.

    [​IMG]

    There’s a reason, it's an obvious Witch Hunt:
    It has never had majority support.
     
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    If the appointment of the Republican Special Counsel by the Republican acting Attorney General of the Trump Justice Department "to oversee the previously-confirmed FBI investigation of Russian government efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election and related matters" is illegal, what actions have been taken by the Trump administration to come into compliance with the law during the 2 years since the appointment?

    Is it your contention that the Trump administration is violating the law by not fulfilling its duty?

    I have no idea who your "you guys" might be, unless it is the majority of Americans who support the Republican Special Counsel's mission "to oversee the previously-confirmed FBI investigation of Russian government efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election and related matters."

    Surrendering to Putin is not an option.

    Now that the Republican Special Counsel has completed his patriotic mission, do you want the Trump Justice Department to appoint a Special Counsel to investigate whether it is legal to appoint Special Counsels?
     
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    "Surrendering to Putin"? Better tighten the chinstrap on your tinfoil hat.

    Rat-faced Rosenstein came under intense pressure after Jimmy "The Fixer" Comey was fired because Rat-faced Rosenstein had written the memorandum used to justify Comey’s dismissal, congressional Democrats slammed him for complicity in what they portrayed as Trump’s obstruction of the Russia probe. Rat-faced Rosenstein wanted to appease them by appointing the special counsel they were demanding.

    Special counsels are not supposed to be appointed unless there is a solid basis to believe a crime has been committed. Rosenstein knew that a president’s firing of an FBI director — a firing that Rosenstein himself had argued was justified — could not be an obstruction crime. He also knew there was no proof that Trump had conspired in Russia’s cyber espionage.

    So Rosenstein called it a counterintelligence probe. So, Poof! No need for a crime, since such investigations are just intelligence-gathering exercises.

    There is no basis in the special-counsel regulations to appoint one for counterintelligence. The Justice Department does not appoint prosecutors for counterintelligence investigations, which are the FBI’s bailiwick. But, the special-counsel regulations expressly say that they create no enforceable rights enabling anyone to challenge the Justice Department’s flouting of them. So Rat-Faced Rosenstein knew he could ignore the rules and there was not a thing anyone could do about it.

    Meanwhile the Public has firmly caught on that this is a baseless witch hunt by sore losers who refuse to accept the results of the election.
     
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    Despite quislings who are eager to submit to Putin's attacks upon the democratic process of the United States, patriotic Americans will not endure such a blatant violation of national security.

    It is an American, not a hyper-partisan matter, and one of utmost concern.

    Our FBI, NSA, CIA, and the Republican-run Senate Committee on Intelligence confirmed that "Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election. Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump."

    It would be both cowardly and treasonous not to confront the hostile aggression and institute safeguards to prevent such attacks in the future.
     
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    Trump can consort with priests and fat young boys behind the White House,
    and his cult will always defend him. Always. They do. not. care.
     
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    Mueller report out and it looks like Trump was right, again.

    McCabe needs to go to jail followed by Comey.
     
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    MAGA...MAGA...MAGA
     
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    DIRTY BOB MUELLER NOT RECOMMENDING ANY MORE INDICTMENTS

    Dirty Bob Mueller has submitted his report to attorney general William Barr. This completes Dirty Bob's investigation.

    Dirty Bob has not recommended any new indictments. Thus, all the fevered claims that President Trump would be indicted by Dirty Bob, just died.
     
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    If Mueller brings hard core evidence of wrongdoing or criminal activity on the part of Trump, then I support impeachment. If Mueller fails to do that, I don't support impeachment. But I support the Mueller probe because there was enough circumstantial evidence to raise concerns. The Clinton probe was simply politics. Impeaching a President over consensual sex & lying about it to protect a marriage is NOT within the parameters of the Constitution. Impeaching a President for illegal activities that amount to a felony or possible treason does conform to the Constitution. Clinton was the former; Trump possibly the latter. Mueller's results will decide.
     
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    What a pile of crap. They never had probable cause of a crime by Trump which is why Rat-Faced Rosenstein appointed Dirty Bob to conduct a counterintelligence investigation rather than a criminal investigation, because a criminal investigation requires a crime and probable cause, and Rat-Face and Dirty Bob had neither.

    More Spin Now That Dirty Bob Has Submitted:
    • I Reject The Binary Choice of "The Crimes Were Proven" or "There Was No Crime Proven;" I Demand People Acknowledge a "Middle Ground" Where Trump is Kinda-Sorta Guilty Anyway Which Isn't Really a Middle Ground Because Really It's Just a Way for Me to Say "I'm Still Right, I Don't Care What Your (spit) 'Evidence' Or Absence Thereof Says:"
     
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    So What?

    It's over.

    Time to move onto the SDNY and House Investigations.

    No new indictments from Mueller?

    Big Whoop. :bored:
     
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    Your post has nothing to do with my post. Not surprising. Just had an urge to post random gibberish?
     
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    Did they do the same on with Benghazi and the Clinton email scandle ?

    Your delusional. MUELLER IS A REPUBLICAN.

    By YOUR new standard, if no crime is found, then the investigation MUST be a witch hunt. SO will you freely do it that Benghazi and the Clinton email scandle was the same ? Remember, no charges were filed in either of those either
     
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    Flynn pled guilty because he knew they had him. You make it whatever you want to help you sleep at night Rod, but remember, innocent people dont plead guilty ;)
     
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