Halima Shokuri escapes Afghanistan but forced to leave fiance behind.

https://www.kniakrls.com/2021/08/30/pella-christian-exchange-student-escapes-afghanistan/

Picture in link for those wondering who some of the American citizens in Afghanistan are.

Halima Shokuri after visiting family was getting ready to depart Afghanistan when the military suddenly retreated leaving her and her fiance trapped in the country.

She managed to make it to the airport where she met a marine and showed proof she was a American citizen from Iowa. She was let into the airport but her fiance was not let in. She was forced to leave him behind.

His name is not mentioned most likely to protect his identity. He is still over there. He may not be a citizen but it's still messed up he was not able to leave with her.

Biden did not care about our citizens. He left them there to die.

People on here are asking for the names of Americans left behind as if they need proof or they care more about defending Biden. Democrats are putting party before Americans and it's sad.

How many Americans have to die before you all stop defending Biden?

 

Huh? Halima Shokuri's fiancée is American? And, if he was, why didn't he do the same she did and prove it?

 

If they'd have been from Honduras, Biden would have flown them anywhere in the US they wanted to go.

 

I never said he was a citizen. It's still wrong to just leave him there. He would be in America most likely if Biden gave everyone clear warning to leave months in advance.

 

Golem, he stated that he may not be an American citizen. "

Matthew wrote "He may not be a citizen but it's still messed up he was not able to leave with her." There is no way to verify this because his name hasn't been released and that's probably a *good* thing if they are executing people that helped our side.

 

In the link it shows her picture. She is a Christian foreign exchange student from Iowa. Foreign as in American citizen and she looks Asian or white mixed. Very young.

She had no warning and after the Taliban took over she took it upon herself to go to the airport and seek help.

Not all Americans over there are of Afghan descent as some on the left want us to believe.

 

Exactly. I understand why they refused him but it's still sad. Halima herself had to go to the airport on her own initiative for fear of being stranded there.

Being forced to leave a loved one behind you plan to marry soon is very hard.

 

I'm not on the left and I don't believe all Americans there are of Afghani descent. However, I don't find it impossible to believe that some of them have not become Taliban or ISIS sympathizers. Some of the Afghani people helped out side so it only makes sense that some Americans helped one of the terrorist groups.

I think it's wrong to make this a left or right issue. It's a human issue and impacts us all. Biden needs to answer some questions and there is not one person on this planet that will defend him until he does.

 

It's hard leaving behind people we just care about platonically. I was in the same position when my children were kidnapped. I had NO idea where to begin to find them and it darn near killed me. And, my ex caused so much trouble the police wouldn't even help me.

Nobody is saying this is not sad.
Nobody is saying this is okay.
Nobody is saying Biden gets a pass.
Nobody sane could feel that way about this.

 

Then what did you mean by...

What is this thread about, then?

Tell me something, why do you think it is that right wingers are suddenly so concerned about immigrants from Muslim countries that they were begging Trump to ban from entering this country not that long ago?

Yes! It IS wrong to not provide all the support we can to anybody who is being persecuted politically in their own country.... including welcoming them in to our country and granting them asylum. And it makes no difference if they're from Afghanistan, Europe or Guatemala. There is however a slight degree of justification for somebody being left behind when we are in the middle of leaving a country that we invaded and we're getting out because we lost the war.

 

I don't recall Matthew, specifically, making any racist comments about people at the border but it's quite clear that many here think it's okay to ravish someone else's country and just leave them with no means of assistance. It's quite sad that some of us believe certain people's lives are more *valuable* and important than others. It's especially heart-breaking since this whole country is filled with descendants of immigrants.

 

I'm absolutely sure he hasn't. I wasn't implying that he did. But he does appear to support the side that does that.

 

To attempt to place blame on Biden is being disingenuous at best. It's not his fault they waited until the bitter end to try to leave. They should have left once it was agreed that the US forces would withdraw from Afghanistan and they knew this over a year ago when Trump negotiated the deal with the Taliban. They have no one to blame but themselves.

 

And, I wasn't making any accusations. As far as that side goes, @Matthewthf and @Darthcervantes don't get on my last nerve. I thought I would become more patient as I got older. The opposite is going on over here. I can't deal with blatant stupidity or racism/sexism. I used to be much, much more patient and understanding. That's gone!

 

It's called getting old and crotchety. It's happening to me, too, lol. I'm more patient with some things than I used to be (like bad drivers), but less patient for other things.

 

In all fairness, it would not be wise to make assumptions about innocence in the local nationals seeking asylum. There is considerable danger in opening the doors to a people conditioned to a culture in which making the ultimate sacrifice for the cause/religion, is no big deal. Even the most innocent is walking MUCH closer to that particular fire, than any of us are ever going to.

 

Would he have been able to come if they were married? If so, then this probably should have been planned better by the couple. They should have gotten hitched the second Biden made the withdrawal announcement.
Maybe everything I said is crap because I don’t know if being married to an American gets you into America. I’m honestly not sure how all of that works. You would think I would know this with all the 90 day fiancée episodes I’ve watched but I’ve never paid attention to the policy/procedure part of it

 

It's not automatic. There is a process that can take months. But I'm sure that coming from a country under control by terrorist extremists would accelerate the process substantially. But they should have started when Trump signed our surrender in February 2020. But who's to know if they had even met at that point.

 

Did you expect no casualties?

 

Except that during that entire time Biden and the democrats were telling them how strong the Afghan military was and they were assured the Americans would support them in that effort. Aaaaaand then they left abruptly.