Has democracy morphed

It might.

The basic problem is people do not cope well with lies, especially floods of lies.

The hope is that truth may win when it confronts lies; like the lie that the Russian Special Operation was unprovoked, that was a blatant lie.

But another problem is that lies come before the rebuttal can be delivered.

And people get angry if contradicted. So there end up being floods of lies.

Pretty hopeless, but I have hope.

 

@Kal'Stang
I want to use this as an example, without the stigma of a conspiracy theory. This is my perspective and observations.

In 1996 Port Arthur, Tasmania, Australia. Martyn Bryant is accused & charged with committing Australia's largest massacre in history. He was a numpty, a dullard. Could hardly string a sentence together let alone shoot 35 people in the head from the hip giving them a '3rd eye' using semi-automatic military-style rifles. This was the account told by witnesses. The point is, that this led to the introduction of new gun control laws in Australia not long after the incident. There have never been any incidents prior. It was a mechanism to establish a problem, reaction and solution scenario. Use Bryant as a scapegoat to create the problem, get a reaction from the people, and then give the solution. New gun laws. What's this got to do with changing democracy? The government created problem when there wasn't one, so as to remove the right to ownership of military-style semi-automatic weapons. This was a freedom and a right, now it is condemned and a privilege/crime to own one. Why then? Control.

 

Have you heard of the expression 'mass formation psychosis'? Over the last 2.5 years, the planet was inundated with them (lies). Following me?

True. That's why the opposing team wants nuclear war. To cover up all their lies.

Yeah, it is sad, but I dare say there will be disclosure on many things soon, plus arrests on a biblical scale. I too am hopeful.

 

Well sorry to be the country that's dragging down democracy worldwide! True, democracy is going down the toilet but hopefully it will still exist elsewhere. In the past few years in the US we've learned that regardless of how we vote, and what we express that we want with that vote, there is a uni-party establishment that only allows "democracy" on the margins. For example we can vote on how much we want the government to spend, a lot or a lot more, but our choices are limited. Faith in our institutions...almost all of them, has declined precipitously.

The historical record on democracy is that it eventually ends in tyranny, so I suppose that's what will happen to us as well, it's just for most of my life I assumed that I wouldn't live to see that day. Now I'm not sure.

 

LOL, it is the best example. Just look at the fine job the Dems are doing with it.

From my perspective, the US is the poster child for democracy. Currently, that poster child looks like a crack whore. The US is the first domino, should it fall in the sense of its a beacon for democracy, the rest of the democratic world will follow, sadly.

Would you say it's because of corruption and or both outside influences?

 

Yes, but it's been going on for a very long time. Organized lying in the form of psychology-based propaganda started in 1917 in the US with Edward Louis Bernays and his cohorts. Just plain lying has gone on forever.

Joe Biden was the big liar on Feb 24th and that can not be covered up.

Arresting most of the Democrats and half of the Republicans could affect the way the government works.

 

Not to forget to mention the rest of the international criminals playing their part.

 

New Report: The global decline in democracy has accelerated

"Freedom in the World 2021 finds that the annual gap between losses and gains widened in 2020, and fewer than a fifth of the world’s people now live in fully Free countries."

 

Well there is corruption and no doubt outside influences but democracies end because that's their nature. The overt politicization of everything, the observation that moderates can't compete against fanatics because the fanatics want it more, and of course the power that control of the public treasury gives to buy votes; that tends to accelerate until eventually people are voting for who gives them the biggest prizes.

However the US is not the weakest democracy and plenty of democracies have already fallen, and no doubt many more will. The other Anglosphere countries have already in various ways shown some pretty massive weaknesses over the past few years, so some of them may precede the US's democratic collapse.

 

I think the important thing to do would first be to define what democracy is (to you)? To me, in a nutshell, democracy is freedom through representation.

 

Yes, it is only a symbol. The reality is that special interests have long controlled the government.

Now that seems very much the case for the poor people of Canada. Fidel's Little Bastard is a full blown tyrant, and there are not enough good men and women in the rest of the government to stop him.

 

To the extent that is true, it is collectively our fault for allowing special interests to fill the void left by our apathy and ignorance.

 

Yes, Ben Franklin was right in the summer of 1787. The framers gave us a republic, but we could not keep it.

 

Eh...we had a good run.

 

I think a political forum where people can say pretty much anything

if it isn't too gross, and it does have to be on topic,

Would be the best way to rescue our democracy.

 

Can't disagree with that. Then the definition of what freedom is under democracy would have to be defined.

 

Yeah, I feel ya. Nearly every government that plays the democracy card has gone mad. I bet Kim Jong-un is pissing himself laughing at the western world.

 

So what your definition of freedom?

 

To be able to do what you want. As long as you're not committing a crime or offence and you're not harming/endangering and disturbing anyone or their property and life.