Have the Democrats illegally stolen this election through fraud?

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Have the Democrats illegally stolen this election through fraud?

  1. Yes - People need to go to prison

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  2. No - The President lost fair and square

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  1. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Do you believe the president?

    Have the Democrats illegally stolen this election through fraud?
     
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    Yes, it was stolen; but since the court systems in Dem Party controlled states favor Dem Party politicias and their operatives, it will never be proven. So in reality we can say that the Dem Party leadership legally stole the election. They ARE going to get away with it, and in the long run that's all that really matters.
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump's claims are baseless nonsense.

    even if there are small isolated incidents of fraud, that doesn't flip any state results..
     
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    Can you or anyone provide any evidence of this what so ever? The president has provided nothing.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    GOP had record turnout!!!

    more minorities then ever!!!

    more votes then ever!!!

    they won more House seats!!!

    they kept the Senate!!

    so where is the fraud???? where is the disenfranchisement????

    this **** makes no sense
     
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    The results of the election at both the state levels and the national level imply one thing.

    Republican voters chose to keep Republican leadership in power...but crossed parties to vote against Trump. Otherwise the numbers that drove Biden to his likely win would have also driven the Democratic challengers to similar victories. But they didn't.

    This election was very much about Trump and while he does have a healthy segment of support, as well as inroads to voting blocs that have been more traditionally Democratic, it wasn't enough to overcome his toxic nature.

    Hopefully the Trump experiment has taught us all a lesson. The rural voters won't be ignored, and when they are, they'll elect any madman that comes along that pays attention to them. Nor should they be ignored, they are Americans too.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, i believe what happened is many Moderate and non-extremist Republicans chose to keep Republicans in the House and Senate, but they're just tired of Trump's bullshit.

    they figured if the GOP keeps the Senate and maybe wins the House, there is very little President Biden can do. Certainly can't raise taxes or pass new healthcare laws.
     
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    Today, Biden became the official President-Elect. But, as far as this poll question is concerned, I cannot vote yet.

    There are challenges to the election in many places in the nation, and court action will follow swiftly. At present there is no EVIDENCE that anybody 'stole' anything. If, however, such proof is offered, and IF it stood up in court, then things could possibly change dramatically -- but I seriously doubt it....
     
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    You're right, it doesn't make sense. Biden gets almost 10 million more votes that Obama or Hillary got. Trump gets 5 million more than either of them also. Additionally Trump gained support among blacks, latinos, and asians by 4 percentage points each. Meaning Biden received less than what Hillary got. Even in the category of "other" Trump gained 4 points. Trump also received the same amount of support among whites.

    So...how did Biden win? Percentage wise it doesn't make sense.
     
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    See, you've hit upon the exact reason that I don't trust it. I believe most people in this country, given the present political climate, voted a straight party ticket. Think about it...do you think a lot of your Biden-supporting friends voted Republican for senate?
     
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    Is there a legal way to steal it?
     
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    You know

    what gets me about this was if this was reversed all the posts would be crowing about “Librul tears“
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    Funny how you got kicked out of debate politics to come spread your manure here.

    Also, exit polls are meaningless.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How many new voters are there?
     
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    Well...judging by the amount that both Biden and Trump got I'd say about 15 million more. Don't quote me on that...just guessing.
     
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    Actually I was leaving there anyways. As evidenced by my last post there.

    And if exit polls are so meaningless then why does everyone collect them? That's actually a rhetorical question. You can learn a lot from them. For example the fact that Trump got an extra 4 percentage points of the black vote shows that Dems are losing thier hold on them. I mean come on...if Trump, a supposed racist, gained in the black vote then they are obviously learning that Dems don't have thier back near as much as Dems claim.

    In any case I see that you couldn't dispute anything I said. Which is why you went on the attack instead of trying to dispute what I said. Typical.

    Don't know who you are, and don't really care, but obviously what I said over at DP stuck with you. It's been over a year since I left that place. Yet you still remember. Truth does tend to be remembered more often. Glad I could be of service.
     
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    No, Biden won fair and square by the narrowest of margins, Covid one way or the other lost the election for Trump.
     
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    You dont know yet that Trump got more of the minority vote because the exit polls cannot be trusted. We simply dont know yet because this years voting patterns ( mail ) were so vastly different than previous elections.
     
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    Because in previous elections, they were more reliable. Rona-19 threw this election into uncharted territory that we dont entirely understand the demographics of yet.
     
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    What Trump can’t take is simple. Biden won. Democrats won. Republican’s won. The country clearly defined him as the loser this cycle.
     
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    I just find it hilarious how you were thrown out of DP and then came here to have your ego soothed with other right wing hacks who shared your laughable "views". Better that than actual debate, eh?

    As for the black vote, big deal. Bush Jr. gained some with minorities that was all but wiped out by Obama. Ironically, despite the narrative that Democrats "hate white people", it was white voters that did Trump in. They voted for Biden at the highest clip for a Democrat since Obama in 2008. And that's from the same small sample sized exit polls you are rambling about.
     
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    Yes, I have lost all confidence in democratic elections, they areas corrupt
     
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    Let's look at this differently, shall we?

    Option 1: Millions of ballots were sent to millions of people who normally don't go out and vote. Especially go out during a global pandemic where our Country is blowing up and setting new records in total infections and our death counts keep climbing. The Democrat ticket told everyone they spoke to, to mail their ballots out. The Trump ticket told his voters to not mail their ballots and go out to the polls. The numbers clearly show this as the end result.

    Option 2: There was a massive coordinated fraud led by Democrats on a tremendous level to cheat Trump of re-election without a single shred of evidence to prove this Country wide fraud took place, only opinions and feelings.

    Hmmmmmm, tough decision to make here. I think I'll stick with Occam's razor and go with Option 1.
     
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    I never said anything about fraud. I would just like the percentages explained.

    Bold: Yes, which would include people from both sides. I for example did not vote on election day, but prior.
     
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    I explained the percentages when I told you millions of ballots were sent out to millions of people who normally don't go out to the polls on election day. The percentages naturally went up because of this. Occam's razor yet again.
     

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