Have the Democrats illegally stolen this election through fraud?

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Have the Democrats illegally stolen this election through fraud?

  1. Yes - People need to go to prison

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  2. No - The President lost fair and square

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Dumping ballots by a few postal workers is not fraud.
    Unless they knowing did so in a largely known D or R district. But, hey, they are postal workers. I doubt they'd know.

    I prefer not to mail in my vote. That'd be trusting those postal workers you just mentioned. I'd rather not.
    Ballots are supposed to remain confidential, how's that happen in your proposal?

    I simply would propose better clarification and proof of the person voting. Without making the actual vote process more difficult.

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    I would have the voting occur on a blockchain by a registration number with no registration info outside of that ID number.
    On a separate server would be the voter registration i
    ID and the registration info but no data on what they voted for. This would help keep it anonymous unless there is illegitimate voting and then a certain type of warrant can be given to investigate or compare the two.
    An automated system can compare registration info between the two systems in order to look for abnormalities so that no person has to view the sensitive information.
     
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  3. dairyair

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    You've given this some thought. Kudos.
     
  4. Turin

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    I think you will start to see this in the future. Blockchain can be used for so many things other than generating crytpo.
     
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    Voter fraud would only be bad if it flips the Presidential election?


    There have been HUGE problems with this election cycle and they need to be gone through with a fine tooth comb so we can protect the integrity of our future elections.
     
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    Its only illegal if you get caught. Our elite political establishment is not going to 'catch' anything. Rather from this day forth our elections are going to be decided by the ones with the power to cheat the most, which is of course our elite political estsblishment.

    The silver lining is that they're likely to soon force our hand in a rebellion which will finally move the rules of the game from what they're good at to what millions of pissed off ordinary citizens are good at.
     
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    I'm sure you don't really mean that.

    I agree.

    I wouldn't call it a "silver lining" but I agree with your main point and I have come to the same conclusion. However, what would be your best advice to avoid it happening?
     
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    Return power to the states so we stop fighting over who holds the power of FedGov. Its little more than a cudgel with which to batter ones political opposition, anymore. Let California be a communist hellhole and let Alabama be a theocratic hellhole. Let the states be states.
     
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    Is that a solution to the problem or encouragement?
     
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    I would love to see some figures in this regard, I've heard that whilst there have been more postal ballots than ever before this year the number of rejected ballots has been lower than ever which seems paradoxical?
     
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    Good question, but reports show that a number of Trump votes have been dumped or even fraudulently changed while those for Biden have been duplicated and even ... uh .... er ... what's it called ... triplicated!
     
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    Whoa really? There are reports? I'm definitely ready to switch my allegiance now and believe in this fraud.

    Can you point me to those credible reports that show this?

    Can you also explain how Biden's team knew that Nevada would be one of the key states (you know - above usual battleground states like OH, Florida, etc) they'd have to "fraud" their way to victory? Do they have seers on their side?

    Thanks - I'm eagerly anticipating the proof.
     
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    1) Trump has a number of legal pokers in the fire. You do not reveal your strategy ahead of time so don't expect much in the way of evidence until after mid-December. That is what a recent Tucker Carlson issue vs. Trump people was about;
    2) They're announcing that there is a ton of evidence they plan to release in the courts system. We'll see;
    3) Trump et. al. may be playing 4D chess. Show the press something shiny (Rudy Giuliani running hair dye) so that they don't notice some other thing that is actually going on;
    4) Some are arguing that Trump will not even make fraud the center of his cases but procedural matters requiring court ordered over-turning; or
    5) Trump really is full of it. This was all a stunt to get people to help fund a movement he never had any intention of winning.

    We'll see by mid-December.

    ITMT: My biggest issue is when I'm asked to prove there was election fraud. It's the other way around. The powers that be should want an electoral system that people buy. I'd think it easier to govern a people who believe their elections are secure and fair.

    With mail in voting, they have failed that with me. I never bought into the idea. I always thought it extremely vulnerable to machine politics tampering. I'm advised Hillary did not file a single lawsuit vs. Trump as if she did, she exposed her own voter fraud and may have lost even her popular majority. She tried to steal the election but did not steal enough. I thought that team Biden would let people vote in person, count that vote so that upfront, they know how much they need to steal, and then did so.

    It is kind of unfair on me, I concede as I don't know how, if I'm wrong, you could convince me that was so.

    I have heard this: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2020-election-secure-history-federal-security .

    That, and that Epstein killed himself.
     
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    As Rudy Giuliani says, "Read the affidavits that are available"

     
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    Trump is the first president on record who never had majority support in the opinion surveys. In addition he is not presidential. He is vulgar, impulsive, ignorant, and inarticulate. I am surprised the election was as close as it was. No, the Democrats did not steal the election. Joe Biden won fairly.

    Unfortunately, most Republicans think their man was robbed of the election. Trump's lie that the election was stolen from him is likely to be as durably believed as his lie that Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

    I found this on the internet:

    TrumpIsGod.png

    It is impossible to reason with people who think this way.
     
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    Thats not how court works though. And so far, Trump is I believe 0 wins, 32 losses so far in court.

    In COURT, you provide evidence. Thats how court works. No one is convicted on anything less. He who makes the accusations needs to back them up. Not vice versa.

    And Hillary didnt demand a recount because she lost. She knew she lost. and conceded as a gracious candidate.

    If you want to be the one who believes crazy crap. your the one who has to back that up. Not vice versa.


    I believe that there is secret alien race hidden in caves on the moon and mars plotting the destruction of Earth. I cant prove that, but its what I believe.

    Prove me wrong.
     

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